Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 5 May 2003 to 6 May 2003 (#2003-119)
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1. Hello again (3)
2. Archives? (3)
3. Don't Judge a Book by its Cover (3)
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 00:02:29 -0700
From: Angelo Bertolli <copperblade@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Hello again
Hey guys, I'm rejoining this list after being gone for a
while. Just saying hi.
Angelo Bertolli
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 01:44:44 -0700
From: Angelo Bertolli <copperblade@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Archives?
By the way, do we have any archives for this mailing list?
Angelo
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:10:29 +0200
From: Giampaolo Agosta <agathokles@LIBERO.IT>
Subject: Re: Archives?
Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> By the way, do we have any archives for this mailing list?
There should be an archive on the WotC website--look under
community->mailing lists or something like that.
Otherwise, relevant articles are archived by Shawn in the Vaults.
Bye,
--
Giampaolo Agosta
http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 05:20:27 -0400
From: dire rodent <direrodent@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Archives?
Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> By the way, do we have any archives for this mailing list?
Sure do.
http://oracle.wizards.com/archives/mystara-l.html
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:00:47 -0400
From: Chris Cherrington <inour12@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject: Re: Don't Judge a Book by its Cover
>
> From: Andrés Piquer Otero <erewan@TERRA.ES>
>
> Nice catalogue!!!
> just a couple remarks...
>
> (snip used ad libitum)
>
Thank you, I took them into consideration, and I hope they show.
Here is the much extended version...
000 Generalities
001 Knowledge
002 The book
003 Systems
004 Mathematical formulae
005 Magical formulae
006 Special magical methods
010 Bibliography
011 Bibliographies
012 Bibliographies of individuals
013 Bibliographies of works by specific classes of authors
014 Bibliographies of anonymous and pseudonymous works
015 Bibliographies of works from specific places
016 Bibliographies of works from specific subjects
017 General subject catalogs
018 Catalogs arranged by author & date
019 Dictionary catalogs
020 Library & information sciences
021 Library relationships
022 Administration of the physical plant
023 Personnel administration
024 Special assignments, tasks
025 Library operations
026 Libraries for specific subjects
027 General libraries
028 Reading, use of other information media
029 Protection, warding against theft
030 General encyclopedic works
031 General encyclopedic works -- Glantrian
032 General encyclopedic works in Thyatian
033 General encyclopedic works in other Northlandish languages
034 General encyclopedic works in Extra-planar
035 General encyclopedic works in Traladaran, Boldavian, Slagich
036 General encyclopedic works in Espa & Verdan
037 General encyclopedic works in Trade languages
038 General encyclopedic works in Alphatian languages
039 General encyclopedic works in other languages
040 Special topics
041 Elfin designs
050 General serials & their indexes
051 General serials & their indexes Glantrian
052 General serials & their indexes In Thyatian
053 General serials & their indexes In other Northlandish languages
054 General serials & their indexes In Extra-planar
055 General serials & their indexes In Traladaran, Boldavian, Slagich
056 General serials & their indexes In Espa & Verdan
057 General serials & their indexes In Trade languages
058 General serials & their indexes In Alphatian languages
059 General serials & their indexes In other languages
060 General organizations & museums
061 General organization & museology In Known World
062 General organization & museology In Thyatis
063 General organization & museology In Northern Reaches & Norwold
064 General organization & museology In Glantri
065 General organization & museology In Darokin and Alfhiem
066 General organization & museology In Minrothad and adjacent islands
067 General organization & museology In Alphatia
068 General organization & museology In other areas
069 Museology (Museum science)
070 New media, journalism, publishing
071 News media, journalism, publishing In Known World
072 News media, journalism, publishing In Thyatis
073 News media, journalism, publishing In Northern Reaches and Norwold
074 News media, journalism, publishing In Glantri
075 News media, journalism, publishing In Darokin and Alfheim
076 News media, journalism, publishing In Minrothad & adjacent islands
077 News media, journalism, publishing In Alphatia
078 News media, journalism, publishing In Savage Coast
079 News media, journalism, publishing In other languages
080 General collections
081 General collections Glantrian
082 General collections In Thyatian
083 General collections In other Northlandish languages
084 General collections In Extra-planar
085 General collections In Traladaran, Boldavian, Slagich
086 General collections In Espa & Verdan
087 General collections In Trade languages
088 General collections In Alphatian languages
089 General collections In other languages
090 Manuscripts & rare tomes
091 Manuscripts
092 Block books
093 Incunabula
094 Printed books
095 Books notable for bindings
096 Books notable for illustrations
097 Books notable for ownership or origin
098 Prohibited works, forgeries, hoaxes
099 Books notable for format
100 Philosophy
101 Theory of philosophy
102 Miscellany of philosophy
103 Dictionaries of philosophy
105 Serial publications of philosophy
106 Organizations of philosophy
107 Education, research in philosophy
108 Kinds of persons in philosophy
109 Historical treatment of philosophy
110 Metaphysics
111 Ontology
112 Extra-planar
113 Cosmology (Philosophy of nature)
114 Space
115 Time
116 Change
117 Structure
118 Force & Energy
119 Number & quantity
120 Epistemology, causation, humankind
121 Epistemology (Theory of knowledge)
122 Causation
123 Determinism & indeterminism
124 Teleology
126 The self
127 The unconscious & the subconscious
128 Humankind
129 Origin & destiny of individual souls
130 Paranormal phenomena
131 Thanatology
132 Druidic societies
133 ParaFantasms & occultism
134 Theologic magic
135 Dreams & mysteries
136 Outer planes
137 Divinatory graphology
138 Physiognomy
139 Phrenology
140 Specific philosophical schools
141 Idealism & related systems
142 Critical philosophy
143 Intuitionism & Bergsonism
144 Humanism & related systems
145 Sensationalism
146 Naturalism & related systems
147 Pantheism & related systems
148 Liberalism, eclecticism, traditionalism
149 Other philosophical systems
150 Fantasms
152 Perception, movement, emotions, drives
153 Mental processes & intelligence
154 Subconscious & altered states
155 Differential & developmental Fantasms
156 Comparative Fantasms
158 Applied Fantasms
160 Logic
161 Induction
162 Deduction
165 Fallacies & sources of error
166 Syllogisms
167 Hypotheses
168 Argument & persuasion
169 Analogy
170 Ethics (moral philosophy)
171 Systems & doctrines
172 Political ethics
173 Ethics of family relationships
174 Economic & professional ethics
175 Ethics of recreation & leisure
176 Ethics of sex & reproduction
177 Ethics of social relations
178 Ethics of consumption
179 Other ethical norms
180 Ancient, Post rain of fire, Flaemish philosophy
181 Alphatian philosophy
182 Pre-Cypric Alphatian philosophies
183 Cypric & Flaemish philosophies
184 Planar philosophy
185 Elemental philosophy
186 Skeptic and Neoplanar philosophies
187 Thyatian philosophy
188 Stoic philosophy
189 Post Rain of Fire philosophy
190 Modern western philosophy
191 Modern philosophy Northern Territories
192 Modern philosophy Isle of Dawn
193 Modern philosophy Heldannic & Hattian
194 Modern philosophy Glantri
195 Modern philosophy Darokin
196 Modern philosophy Alfhiem
197 Modern philosophy Alphatia
198 Modern philosophy Savage Coast
199 Modern philosophy Other geographical areas
200 Magic
201 Philosophy of magic
202 Miscellany of magic
203 Dictionaries of magic
204 Special topics
205 Serial publications of magic
206 Organizations of magic
207 Education, research in magic
208 Kinds of persons in magic
209 History & geography of magic
210 Natural magic
211 Concepts of magic
212 Existence, attributes of magic
213 Creation
214 Theodicy
215 Science & magic
216 Good & evil
217 Elfinkind
218 Humankind
219 Draconic and extraplanar-kind
220 Rad
221 Testament
222 Historical books of Testament
223 Poetic books of Testament
224 Prophetic books of Testament
225 New Testament
228 Revelation (Apocalypse)
229 Apocrypha & pseudepigrapha
230 Glantrian magic
233 Glantri-kind
235 Outer planar beings
236 Eschatology
238 Creeds & catechisms
239 Apologetics & polemics
240 Glantrian morality of magic
246 Use of art in magic
247 Magic furnishings & articles
248 Magic experience, practice, life
249 Magic observances in family life
250 Glantrian orders & local schools
251 Tenurship
252 Texts of courses
253 Tutorial office
254 School government & administration
255 Schools & orders
259 Activities of the local schools
260 Glantrian social magics
261 Social methods
263 Times, places of magical observance
264 Public use of magecraft
266 Missions
267 Associations for magical work
268 Sage education
270 Glantrian school history
271 Magical orders in school history
272 Persecutions in school history
273 Heresies in school history
274 Magecraft school in Isle of Dawn
275 Magecraft school in Alphatia
276 Magecraft school in outer planes
277 Magecraft school in Known World
278 Magecraft school in Savage Coast
279 Magecraft school in other areas
280 Glantrian herecies & sects
281 Early school & Flaemish
282 Thyatian schools
283 Alphatian schools
284 Schools of elfin origin
289 Other denominations & sects
290 Other & comparative magics
291 Comparative Magic
292 Classical (Alphatian & Flaemish) Magic
293 Northlandish magic
294 Magics of Elfin origin
295 Druidism
296 Pantheism
297 Oceanic & religions originating in it
299 Other religions
300 Social Science
301 Sociology & anthropology
302 Social interaction
303 Social processes
304 Factors affecting social behavior
305 Social groups
306 Culture & institutions
307 Communities
310 General statistics
313 General statistics Of Outer planes
314 General statistics Of Alphatia
315 General statistics Of Skothar
316 General statistics Of Hinterlands
317 General statistics Of Known World
318 General statistics Of Savage Coast
319 General statistics Of other parts of the world
320 Political science
321 Systems of governments & states
322 Relation of state to organized groups
323 Civil & political rights
324 The political process
325 International migration & colonization
326 Slavery & emancipation
327 International relations
328 The legislative process
330 Economics
331 Labor economics
332 Financial economics
333 Land economics
334 Cooperatives
335 Socialism & related systems
336 Public finance
337 International economics
338 Production
339 Macroeconomics & related topics
340 Law
341 International law
342 Constitutional & administrative law
343 Military, tax, trade, industrial law
344 Social, labor, welfare, & related law
345 Criminal law
346 Private law
347 Civil procedure & courts
348 Law (Principalities), regulations, cases
349 Law of specific jurisdictions & areas
350 Public administration
351 Of central governments
352 Of local governments
353 of principality's governments
354 Of specific central governments
355 Military science
356 Foot forces & warfare
357 Mounted forces & warfare
358 Other specialized forces & services
359 Sea (Naval) forces & warfare
360 Social problems & services
361 General social problems & services
362 Social welfare problems & services
363 Other social problems & services
364 Criminology
365 Penal & related institutions
366 Association
367 General clubs
368 Insurance
369 Miscellaneous kinds of associations
370 Education
371 School management; special education
372 Elementary education
373 Secondary education
374 Adult education
375 Curriculums
376 Education of mages
377 Schools & magic
378 Higher education
379 Government regulation, control, support
380 Commerce, communications, transport
381 Internal commerce (Domestic trade)
382 International commerce (Foreign trade)
383 Postal communication
384 Communications
385 Caravan transportation
386 Inland waterway & ferry transportation
387 Water, air, space transportation
388 Transportation Ground transportation
389 Metrology & standardization
390 Customs, etiquette, folklore
391 Costume & personal appearance
392 Customs of life cycle & domestic life
393 Death customs
394 General customs
395 Etiquette (Manners)
398 Folklore
399 Customs of war & diplomacy
400 Language
401 Philosophy & theory
402 Miscellany
403 Dictionaries & encyclopedias
404 Special topics
405 Serial publications
406 Organizations & management
407 Education, research, related topics
408 With respect to kinds of persons
409 Geographical & persons treatment
410 Linguistics
411 Writing systems
412 Etymology
413 Dictionaries
414 Phonology
415 Structural systems (Grammar)
416 Extra-planar
417 Dialectology & historical linguistics
418 Standard usage Applied linguistics
419 Verbal language not spoken or written
420 Thyatian & Thratian languages
421 Thyatian writing system & phonology
422 Thyatian etymology
423 Thyatian dictionaries
425 Thyatian grammar
427 Thyatian language variations
428 Standard Thyatian usage
429 Old Thyatian (Thratian)
430 Northland languages
431 Antalian writing system & phonology
432 Antalian etymology
433 Antalian dictionaries
435 Antalian grammar
437 Antalian language variations
438 Standard Antalian usage
439 Other Northlandish languages
440 Alien languages (Extra-planar)
441 Extra-planar writing system & phonology
442 Extra-planar etymology
443 Extra-planar dictionaries
445 Extra-planar grammar
447 Extra-planar language variations
448 Standard Extra-planar usage
449 Elemental varience
450 Traladaran, Boldavian, Slagich
451 Traladaran writing system & phonology
452 Traladaran etymology
453 Traladaran dictionaries
455 Traladaran grammar
457 Traladaran language variations
458 Standard Traladaran usage
459 Boldavian & Slagich
460 Espa & Verdan languages
461 Espa writing system & phonology
462 Espa etymology
463 Espa dictionaries
465 Espa grammar
467 Espa language variations
468 Standard Espa usage
469 Verdan
470 Trade languages
471 Classical Trade writing & phonology
472 Classical Trade etymology & phonology
473 Classical Trade dictionaries
475 Classical Trade grammar
477 Old, Postclassical, Vulgar Trade
478 Classical Trade usage
479 Other Trade languages
480 Alphatian languages
481 Classical Alphatian writing & phonology
482 Classical Alphatian etymology
483 Classical Alphatian dictionaries
485 Classical Alphatian grammar
487 Preclassical & postclassical Alphatian
488 Classical Alphatian usage
489 Other Hellenic languages
490 Other languages
491 Sindhi & Hulean languages
492 Ylari
493 Minrothadian Patois
494 Ethengarian & Humanoid
495 Languages of Elvin design
496 Tanagoro, Yavi
497 North Glantrian native languages
498 South Glantrian native languages
499 Miscellaneous languages
500 Natural science & mathematics
501 Philosophy & theory
502 Miscellany
503 Dictionaries & encyclopedias
505 Serial publications
506 Organizations & management
507 Education, research, related topics
508 Natural history
509 Historical, areas, persons treatment
510 Mathematics
511 General principles
512 Algebra & number theory
513 Arithmetic
514 Topology
515 Analysis
516 Geometry
517 Extra-planar
518 Elemental
519 Probabilities & applied mathematics
520 Astronomy & allied sciences
521 Celestial mechanics
522 Techniques, equipment, materials
523 Specific celestial bodies & phenomena
524 Tesseracts
525 Mystara (Astronomical geography)
526 Mathematical geography
527 Celestial navigation
528 Ephemerides
529 Chronology
530 Physics
531 Classical mechanics Solid mechanics
532 Fluid mechanics Liquid mechanics
533 Gas mechanics
534 Sound & related vibrations
535 Light & paraphotic phenomena
536 Heat
537 Electricity & electronics
538 Magnetism
539 Modern physics
540 Alchemy & allied magics
541 Physical & theoretical alchemy
542 Techniques, equipment, materials
543 Analytical alchemy
544 Qualitative analysis
545 Quantitative analysis
546 Inorganic alchemy
547 Organic alchemy
548 Crystallography
549 Mineralogy
550 Mystara sciences
551 Geology, hydrology, meteorology
552 Petrology
553 Economic geology
554 Mystara sciences of Isle of Dawn
555 Mystara sciences of Alphatia
556 Mystara sciences of Hinterlands
557 Mystara sciences of Known World
558 Mystara sciences of Savage Coast
559 Mystara sciences of other areas
560 Paleontology & Paleozoology
561 Paleobotany
562 Fossil invertebrates
563 Fossil primitive phyla
564 Fossil Mollusca & Molluscoidea
565 Other fossil invertebrates
566 Fossil Vertebrata (Fossil Craniata)
567 Fossil cold-blooded vertebrates
568 Fossil Aves (Fossil birds)
569 Fossil Mammalia
570 Life sciences
571 Demi-human races
572 Human races
573 Physical anthropology
574 Biology
575 Evolution & genetics
576 Microbiology
577 General nature of life
578 Thanatology
579 Collection and preservation
580 Botanical sciences
581 Botany
582 Spermatophyta (Seed-bearing plants)
583 Dicotyledones
584 Monocotyledones
585 Gymnospermae (Pinophyta)
586 Cryptogamia (Seedless plants)
587 Pteridophyta (Vascular cryptograms)
588 Bryophyta
589 Thallobionta & Prokaryotae
590 Zoological sciences
591 Zoology
592 Invertebrates
593 Protozoa, Echinodermata, related phyla
594 Mollusca & Molluscoidea
595 Other invertebrates
596 Vertebrata (Craniata, Vertebrates)
597 Cold-blooded vertebrates Fishes
598 Aves (Birds)
599 Mammalia (Mammals)
600 Technology (applied sciences)
601 Philosophy & theory
602 Miscellany
603 Dictionaries & encyclopedias
604 Special topics
605 Serial publications
606 Organizations
607 Education, research, related topics
608 Invention & patents
609 Historical, areas, persons treatment
610 Herbology
611 Human anatomy, cytology, histology
612 Human physiology
613 Promotion of health
614 Incidence & prevention of disease
615 Pharmacology & theraputics
616 Diseases
617 Surgery & related medical specialities
618 Gynecology & other medical specialities
619 Experimental medicine
620 Engineering
621 Applied physics
622 Mining & related operations
623 Military & nautical engineering
624 Civil engineering
625 Engineering of roads
626 Magical enineering
627 Hydraulic engineering
628 Sanitary & municipal engineering
629 Other branches of engineering
630 Agriculture
631 Techniques, equipment, materials
632 Plant injuries, diseases, pests
633 Field & plantation crops
634 Orchards, fruits, forestry
635 Garden crops (Horticulture)
636 Animal husbandry
637 Processing dairy & related products
638 Insect culture
639 Hunting, fishing, conservation
640 Home economics & family living
641 Food & drink
642 Meals & table service
643 Housing & household equipment
644 Household utilities
645 Household furnishings
646 Sewing, clothing, personal living
647 Management of public households
648 Housekeeping
649 Child rearing & home care of sick
650 Management
651 Office services
652 Processes of written communication
653 Shorthand
654 Seneschals
655 Scribes
657 Accounting
658 General management
659 Advertising & public relations
660 Alchemy for Mundane Use
661 Industrial chemicals technology
662 Explosives, fuels technology
663 Beverage technology
664 Food technology
665 Industrial oils, fats, waxes, gases
666 Ceramic & allied technologies
667 Cleaning, color, related technologies
668 Technology of other organic products
669 Metallurgy
670 Manufacturing
671 Metalworking & metal products
672 Iron, steel, other iron alloys
673 Nonferrous metals
674 Lumber processing, wood products, cork
675 Leather & fur processing
676 Pulp & paper technology
677 Textiles
678 Elastomers & elastomer products
679 Other products of specific materials
680 Manufacture for specific use
681 Precision instruments & other devices
682 Small forge work (Blacksmithing)
683 Hardware & household appliances
684 Furnishings & home workshops
685 Leather, fur, related products
686 Printing & related activities
687 Clothing
688 Other final products & packaging
690 Buildings
691 Building materials
692 Auxiliary construction practices
693 Specific materials & purposes
694 Wood construction Carpentry
695 Roof covering
696 Utilities
697 Heating, ventilating, air-conditioning
698 Detail finishing
700 The arts
701 Philosophy & theory
702 Miscellany
703 Dictionaries & encyclopedias
704 Special topics
705 Serial publications
706 Organizations & management
707 Education, research, related topics
708 Galleries, museums, private collections
709 Historical, areas, persons treatment
710 Civic & landscape art
711 Area planning (Civic art)
712 Landscape architecture
713 Landscape architecture of trafficways
714 Water features
715 Woody plants
716 Herbaceous plants
717 Structures
718 Landscape design of cemeteries
719 Natural landscapes
720 Architecture
721 Architectural structure
722 Architecture to ca.
723 Architecture from ca. to
724 Architecture from
725 Public structures
727 Buildings for education & research
728 Residential & related buildings
729 Design & decoration
730 Sculpture
731 Processes, forms, subjects of sculpture
732 Sculpture to ca.
733 Alphatian, Thayatian, Thothian sculpture
734 Sculpture from ca. to
735 Sculpture from
736 Carving & carvings
737 Numismatics & sigillography
738 Ceramic arts
739 Art metalwork
740 Drawings & decorative arts
741 Drawing & drawings
742 Perspective
743 Drawing & drawings by subject
745 Decorative arts
746 Textile arts
747 Interior decoration
748 Glass
749 Furniture & accessories
750 Paintings & painters
751 Techniques, equipment, forms
752 Color
753 Symbolism, allegory, mythology, legend
754 Genre paintings
755 Religion & religious symbolism
756 Elvish
757 Human figures & their parts
758 Other subjects
759 Historical, areas, persons treatment
760 Graphic arts (Printmaking & caligrahy)
761 Relief processes (Block printing)
765 Metal engraving
767 Etching & drypoint
769 Prints
770 Captured Illusion
771 Techniques, equipment, materials
774 Holography
778 Fantasms
779 Illusions
780 Music
781 General principles & musical forms
782 Vocal music
783 Music for single voices The voice
784 Instruments & Instrumental ensembles
785 Chamber music
786 Keyboard & other instruments
787 Stringed instruments (Chordophones)
788 Wind instruments (Aerophones)
790 Recreational & performing arts
791 Public performances
792 Stage presentations
793 Indoor games & amusements
794 Indoor games of skill
795 Games of chance
796 Athletic & outdoor sports & games
797 Aquatic & air sports
798 Equestrian sports & animal racing
799 Fishing, hunting, shooting
800 Literature & rhetoric
801 Philosophy & theory
802 Miscellany
803 Dictionaries & encyclopedias
805 Serial publications
806 Organizations
807 Education, research, related topics
808 Rhetoric & collections of literature
809 Literary history & criticism
810 Glantrian literature in Thyatian
811 Poetry
812 Drama
813 Fiction
814 Essays
815 Speeches
816 Letters
817 Satire & humor
818 Miscellaneous writings
820 Thyatian literature
821 Thyatian poetry
822 Thyatian drama
823 Thyatian fiction
824 Thyatian essays
825 Thyatian speeches
826 Thyatian letters
827 Thyatian satire & humor
828 Thyatian miscellaneous writings
829 Old Thyatian (Thratian)
830 Literature of Northlandish language
831 Antalian poetry
832 Antalian drama
833 Antalian fiction
834 Antalian essays
835 Antalian speeches
836 Antalian letters
837 Antalian satire & humor
838 Antalian miscellaneous writings
839 Other Northlandish literatures
840 Literatures of Extra-planar language
841 Extra-planar poetry
842 Extra-planar drama
843 Extra-planar fiction
844 Extra-planar essays
845 Extra-planar speeches
846 Extra-planar letters
847 Extra-planar satire & humor
848 Extra-planar miscellaneous writings
849 Elemental variance
850 Traladaran, Boldavian, Slagich Literatures
851 Traladaran poetry
852 Traladaran drama
853 Traladaran fiction
854 Traladaran essays
855 Traladaran speeches
856 Traladaran letters
857 Traladaran satire & humor
858 Traladaran miscellaneous writings
859 Boldavian & Slagich
860 Espa & Verdan literatures
861 Espa poetry
862 Espa drama
863 Espa fiction
864 Espa essays
865 Espa speeches
866 Espa letters
867 Espa satire & humor
868 Espa miscellaneous writings
869 Verdan
870 Trade literatures
871 Trade poetry
872 Trade dramatic poetry & drama
873 Trade epic poetry & fiction
874 Trade lyric poetry
875 Trade speeches
876 Trade letters
877 Trade satire & humor
878 Trade miscellaneous writings
879 Literatures of other Trade languages
880 Alphatian literatures (Classical Flaemish)
881 Classical Alphatian poetry
882 Classical Alphatian drama
883 Classical Alphatian epic poetry & fiction
884 Classical Alphatian lyric poetry
885 Classical Alphatian speeches
886 Classical Alphatian letters
887 Classical Alphatian satire & humor
888 Classical Alphatian miscellaneous writings
889 Modern Flaemish
890 Literatures of other languages
891 East Isle of Dawn & Nuar
892 Alphatiatic literatures Jennite
893 Non-Alphataic Jennite, Skothat literatures
894 Ethengarian & Humanoid
895 Literatures of West & Southeast Alphatia
896 Hinterlandsn literatures
897 North Glantrian native literatures
898 Darokin native literatures
899 Other literatures
900 Geography & history
901 Philosophy & theory
902 Miscellany
903 Dictionaries & encyclopedias
904 Collected accounts of events
905 Serial publications
906 Organizations & management
907 Education, research, related topics
908 With respect to kinds of persons
909 World history
910 Geography & travel
911 Historical geography
912 Graphic representations of Mystara
913 Ancient world
914 Isle of Dawn
915 Alphatia
916 Outer planes
917 Known World
918 Savage Coast
919 Other areas
920 Biography, genealogy, insignia
921 Banners, flags
922 Coat of Arms, Brun
923 Coat of Arms, Other
928 Genealogy, names, insignia (Noble)
929 Genealogy, names, insignia
930 History of the ancient world
931 History of ancient world Alphatia
932 History of ancient world Thothia
933 History of ancient world Minrothad
934 History of ancient world Shindhi
935 History of ancient world Hule and the Great Escarpement
936 History of ancient world Isle of Dawn east & west
937 History of ancient world Darokin and Alfheim
938 History of ancient world Traladara
939 History of ancient world Other parts of ancient world
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 15:11:28 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?la=20Volpe?= <iuliusscaevola@YAHOO.IT>
Subject: Re: Hello again
Hi Angelo!
Welcome back!
...I'm still alive, too.
In case any Alphatian wizard was wondering. 8-)
Iulius Sergius Scaevola
Captain of the XXth Cohort
Port Lucinius, Thyatis
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:30:53 -0400
From: Chris Cherrington <inour12@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject: Re: Don't Judge a Book by its Cover
>
> From: Andrés Piquer Otero <erewan@TERRA.ES>
>
> 010 Bibliography
>
> If we mold Glantri after a general fantasy Middle Ages setting, Bibliography
> was quite underdeveloped. Organizing (and thus finding) a book was to the
> whims of the librarians in office. Some catalogues were kept, but they used
> to be partial and at times encrypted or symbolical (think Name of the Rose).
>
True, but I was figuring on Glantri’s bureaucracy to keep the librarians in line. Now how the librarians interpret the law, is up to the ruling Princes to decide.
> 090 Manuscripts & rare tomes
>
> That's the traditional quirk... how widespread is the usage of the printing
> press in Mystara?? Some sources point to its underdevelopment when compared
> to RW 15th / 16th Century (maybe it was closer to Middle Ages Chinese
> typeset), others show a halfling merrily printing copies of an infamous
> AC1013 Almanac... Also, I could see Glantrians using magically bound
> creatures or constructs to mechanically copy manuscripts
>
It really depends on what the content is in order for it to be mass produced. How, is up to the DM’s campaign/imagination.
> 130 Paranormal phenomena
>
> What's "paranormal" for a Glantrian... I guess that nothing shorter of the
> Day of Dread would fit ;-)
>
Be afraid, be very afraid…
> 400 Language
>
> Besides your comprehensive list, it would be expected from the GSoM to have
> at least one section on planar languages (like different Elemental talks).
>
> 570 Life sciences
> Again, I could see here some space devoted to non-material plane
> "physiologies" and to Undead "thanatology". That could be linked to medicine
> (Glantri's medical materials would be bigger than the average Mystaran
> library, given their reject of clerical healings).
>
> 900 Geography & history
>
> Again, planar geographies and travels??
>
Done
> Last but not least, a respectful and venerable library like the GSoM's would
> have an "Inferno" and a couple "banned collections"... Banned collections in
> Glantri would be pretty obvious: anything dealing directly with religion and
> Immortals other than Rad. Inferno is the traditional term for a section of a
> library (normally quite restricted, at least in older centuries) dealing
> with intense sexual matters. Librarians try to keep the access quite...
> private. In Glantri, given some powers of Witchcraft / Wokanism, as well as
> the possibility of Valerias involvement in some text, the potential for such
> a collection in a Glantrian campaign could be high.
>
Interesting, but I will leave these out of the catalogue for secrecy’s sake. Just what one finds in a book, could very well have been catalogued wrong or purposely misleading.
The main purpose of the catalogue is to give DM’s a list to roll or select from for finding a rare tome and trying to figure out just what it could be. Finding a bibliography just may not be interesting, but worth lots of money to the mage that wrote it for his personal library. Or be very interesting, as it lists exactly what is in his library (once the wards and deciphering are done).
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:40:14 -0400
From: Chris Cherrington <inour12@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject: Re: Don't Judge a Book by its Cover
Expanding the Mage’s ideal library could be a life long task. What exactly is the mage looking for in a book? Sometimes it is just dumb luck, or sometimes he stumbles across the bibliography of Prince Tutelame the White. A powerful wizard known for his flashy teleportation spells. One might think that if you decipher this script, you would have the knowledge base to build the same library he once studied from and learn his magnificent teleportation spells. Of course you may have to substitute some of his books with a copy or subject like matter, it would not be the first time a mad mage substituted (I am thinking frog DNA for genetic holes in dinosaurs here). Sometimes the book one finds is just notes for the bigger picture. What that bigger picture is, well you just have to find the missing pieces to find out. Insert evil DM laugh, as the missing pieces are for a new sleep spell or conjure major fiend (disguised as invisible servant). Be careful with those summonin
!
g spells, you never know what terrible creature really comes through (my mage was cursed for summoning an in-law, complete with the wife, kids, and a rolling pin+2, +2 vs. husbands who study in all hours of the night!)
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Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 11:14:36 +1200
From: Chris Furneaux <c_furneaux@PARADISE.NET.NZ>
Subject: Re: Hello again
> Hey guys, I'm rejoining this list after being gone for a
> while. Just saying hi.
> Angelo Bertolli
> > ...I'm still alive, too.
> > In case any Alphatian wizard was wondering. 8-)
> > Iulius Sergius Scaevola
</lurk>
Wellcome back Angelo.
Myself, I'm in a design school imposed lurk mode in case anyone was wondering.
Too many orcs to kill, too little time. And meanwhile gremlins are infesting my
designs! Whats a student to do :D
Chris.
<lurk>
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Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 01:23:44 -0300
From: Asgor Ironfist <as_gor@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UXVlc3Rpb25zLCBQb3J0byBNYWxkaefjbyBhbmQgUG9ydG8gRXNjb3Jw?=
=?iso-8859-1?B?aWFv?=
Hi everyone =)
Well, some of my basic questions persists, so i'll ask then:
1- Which is the colour of the shadow elves' skin? everywhere i found
anything about then says that the are pale beings, but the cover of Gaz5 and
Gaz13 shows darkskinned (blue/black) shadow elves... so, which is correct,
which is wrong?
2- Abou the Espas, Ispans and Belcadizians... well, i aways thought that
the Ispans were a version of the people that lived the Iberian Peninsula
before Portugal and Spain exists, and the Espas would be the spanish people
and the Verdans, the Portuguese... But the Ispans might be the european
spanish, and the espas, the american spanish (criollos), specially because
the espas had mixed thenselves with the local natives (oltecs). Ok, the
Verdans is a mix of the ispans, tanagoros and oltecs, and still they're
equivalent to the Portuguese, not the Brazilians... but if the Ispans are
the european spanish, that would explain Belcadiz, right? Or not?
3- Where is the Dominion of Tanaka? It's mencioned at the Savage Baronies'
timeline once, but nothing else is said about this dominion, and it's
nowhere on the maps!
I had an idea for adventures for Porto Maldição, based on the brazilian
history. Since it's placed next to many unexplored/unclamed/savage lands,
it's probable that some verdan adventures would like to explore this
regions. And this remembers me about the brazilian Bandeirantes, explorers
that explored the unknow lands west of the portuguese first colonies. The RW
Bandeirantes mainly started their "Bandeiras" (exploring missions) from a
small village, São Paulo (today the biggest brazilian city), neghbour to
many unexplored lands, specially the region of the Mata Atlântica (Atlantic
Forest, i think... an tropical forest), where they searched for indian to
become slaves, and the montain region of Minas Gerais, where they looked for
gold (and other precious metals) mines.
So, this fits perfertly with Porto Maldição and Mato Grande. Baideirantes
could organize Bandeiras (in Mato Grande as the start point) to explore the
Terras Orcs Orientais (Western Orclands) looking for orcs to become slaves
and pass through the Pântano Podre (Rot Swamps) to reach and explore the
mountains next to Aeryl, looking for gold (and other precious metals) mines.
well, nothing is said that the Verdans of Porto Maldição (or any other) make
slaves to work in their mines/farms, but nothing is said that they don't to
that too (at least in Porto Maldição). They probably might had learnt form
the same orcs this "escravista" system (again, nothing is siad that this
orcs makes slaves to work in their mines/farms, but nothing is said that
they don't... at least i didn't find nothing about it), and now they use
this same orcs as slaves. Ok, but even if they do that, Porto Maldição is a
very small colony, and they would not have the necessity of many Bandeiras
to make many slaves... unless they sell this extra slaves to someone else
that don't care to use forced labor. And the first nation that i think when
i found this answer was Nimmur. Nimmur is a realm of cruel Manscorpions that
can't stay under the sunlight for a long time, or they would die. So, they
would need very much someone to work on their farms, for example...
And because of it, i had another idea for Porto Maldição, and now for Porto
Escorpião too. Both vilaverdan former colonies probably lost part of their
profit when Richland were conquered by Zuyevo, because the Texeirans might
started to pay attention to other trade routes outside the Yalu Bay (at
least until Richland were reconquered, probably), specially because they
lost the monopoly of the trade of this region. That might ruin Porto
Maldição's tradicional source of money, and this would cause the fall of
Porto Maldição's governor. This would cause an civil war, the remaining
powerful factions trying to
gain the remain of Porto Maldição's power and wealth. This would make the
lower classes make Bandeiras thenselves, trying to not lost all the money
then save in their whole lives, spending all in this expeditions and praying
for the Immortals that this Bandeiras will make they profit. This would
generate an very prosperous new trade route (of slaves), just waiting for
someone with enough money to invest and take this slaves to where their
nedded the most. And this is when Don Jorge de Porto Escorpião, affected too
because of the cimarron/texeiran's defeat, realizes the profit he would gain
taking the control of Porto Maldição, and even more, that this colony need
him to not cease to exist (after this crisis, the majority of te population
would migrate to somewhere else, seeking for better conditions of live). So,
after an quick and easy battle against some local powers, the people (from
the poorest to the richest) of Porto Maldição would welcome him and make him
governor of this colony too. Even more, he would probably create a new
Barony (yes, very far from the others, indeed), Baronato de Portos, with the
Fortaleza de Porto Maldição being it's capital. With his support, the
Bandeirantes would prosper
and more and more Bandeiras would be made, probably even discovering gold or
another precious mineral at the western mountains, and because of that,
eventually this new barony would expand it's borders to the south and west.
This slave trade, route, gold mines and the monopoly of trade with Nimmur
would incourage Barão Jorge I to increase his army and navy, eventually
giving hin power to try to compete with Texeiras and Renardy in the commerce
routes on the Yalu Bay, and more than that, he might build another fort on
the Strait of Yalu, and demand taxes to anyone that wants to enter or leave
the Yalu Bay with goods (he might demand an small tax to vilaverdan ships,
or none). Sure, this would put Texeiras, Renardy and the LB Trade Company
against this barony, but Vivalerde would be more than happy to help Baronato
de Portos in this issue (this would be an great oportunity to add new trade
routes to their trade empire and to weak some of their great rivals). And
this might even result in a new war between this naval powers.
Well, that's all =)
Please don't forget to send your comments =)
Bye
_________________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 08:20:59 +0200
From: Giampaolo Agosta <agathokles@LIBERO.IT>
Subject: Re: Questions, Porto =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Maldi=E7=E3o?= and Porto Escorpiao
Asgor Ironfist wrote:
> Hi everyone =)
> Well, some of my basic questions persists, so i'll ask then:
> 1- Which is the colour of the shadow elves' skin? everywhere i found
> anything about then says that the are pale beings, but the cover of Gaz5
> and
> Gaz13 shows darkskinned (blue/black) shadow elves... so, which is correct,
> which is wrong?
The text is correct, the pictures are wrong. Shadow elves are pale, not black skinned.
> 2- Abou the Espas, Ispans and Belcadizians... well, i aways thought that
> the Ispans were a version of the people that lived the Iberian Peninsula
> before Portugal and Spain exists, and the Espas would be the spanish people
> and the Verdans, the Portuguese... But the Ispans might be the european
> spanish, and the espas, the american spanish (criollos), specially because
> the espas had mixed thenselves with the local natives (oltecs). Ok, the
> Verdans is a mix of the ispans, tanagoros and oltecs, and still they're
> equivalent to the Portuguese, not the Brazilians... but if the Ispans are
> the european spanish, that would explain Belcadiz, right? Or not?
The Ispans and Verdans are supposed to represent the Spanish and Portuguese at various times in their history.
In particular, Narvaez represent the Spanish Reconquista, while Saragon is a variant on Moorish Spain. For the rest:
Torreon: early centroamerican spanish colonies
Vilaverde: Portugal in the expansion phase
Texeiras: Brazil
Gargona: hard to say, a lighter toned Spain than Narvaez, perhaps
Almarron: Mexico during/after the revolution
Guadalante: Argentina
> 3- Where is the Dominion of Tanaka? It's mencioned at the Savage Baronies'
> timeline once, but nothing else is said about this dominion, and it's
> nowhere on the maps!
It's because many of the original domains have been destroyed, conquered or absorbed into other lands. Tanaka is now part of Texeiras, IIRC.
> I had an idea for adventures for Porto Maldição, based on the brazilian
> history.
Seems interesting, but I need more time for an in-depth reading...
Later,
--
Giampaolo Agosta
http://digilander.iol.it/agathokles
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