Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 16 Jun 2003 to 17 Jun 2003 (#2003-158) From: Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM> Date: 18/06/2003, 17:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests <MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM> Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 7 messages totalling 304 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. lupin questions 2. Nightmare dimension (2) 3. GenCon? (4) ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 11:58:43 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= <havardfaa@YAHOO.NO> Subject: Re: lupin questions IMC Lupins exist all over the Known World. I dont use all the different subraces (for Lupins or Rakastas), but they have been retrofitted into most countries of the Known World IMC. More and more are also coming into Karameikos as that country has plenty of Werewolves for them to chase. Including these two races makes Mystara quite a bit different from the other fantasy settings, which is good. I think I will keep the Torles in the background though, to keep some credit among my players.. Havard --- David Keyser <davidk@SYNOPSYS.COM> skrev: > I will be adding a lupin PC from Ochalea to my > campaign soon, and > I have a few questions that came up as I looked over > the printed > materials on lupins. > > First, our lupins colorblind? I couldn't find > anything, but I may > have overlooked something. The concept that the > country of > Renardy is full of colorblind lupins doesn't seem to > fit. > > I like the idea of lupin history and origin being > shrouded in > mystery. In my campaign, the lupins of the Known > World have > been relatively isolated from each other, but are > vaguely aware > of their close neighbors. The nation of Renardy is > a rumor and > legend in the Known World, although a few traders in > Minrothad > may be aware of it. > > The other question is how did lupins get so > scattered? I don't recall > if the Hutaakans were created by the Nithians, or if > they were found > independently and absorbed into the Empire, but it > is clear that they > had colonies where the Nithians had colonies. > > For the Known World, the gnoll invasion of Hutaakan > lands meant > some Hutaakans fled to other lands, including > Ochalea. Lupin breeds > began to diversify as Hutaakans intermixed with > gnolls, foo-dogs, blink > dogs, etc. The lycanthrope virus which created > werewolves may also > have had an effect, although that came after > Hutaakan civilization rose > and fell. > > On the Savage Coast, a similar process occurred. > > When Bruce Heard's article on lupins came out, how > many people > used lupins in the Known World? Which is admittedly > a significant > retcon except for Glantri. > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: > http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to > LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > ______________________________________________________ Få den nye Yahoo! Messenger på http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/ Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt så morsom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:19:14 -0300 From: JJJ <ladob@BRTURBO.COM> Subject: Re: Nightmare dimension Here is the Gold Box information in detail: (reading a little of Stephen Hawkings work would be helpful also!) The Multiverse is made of many dimensions, begining with the Three known ones plus a forth perceived only by the Immortals (which would be akin to Eisnteisn Relative Theory about folding space, as immortals can se this dimension they can teleport at will). Some creatures started from the First Dimension (point) and to other (plane) and other (3D): the normal people. However the immortals perceived that there other creatures which stopped way back at the first or only second dimensions! Anyway, being themselves beings of the forth dimension, and who have been of the Third before, they were thinking if there could be not another, a Fifth dimension! and this proved to be true: The Dimension of Nightmares exists by the 5th,4th a 3rd dimensions. Immortals can perceive four dimensions at once, so when they chose to forget transcende the first one they discovered the region of Nightmares, so called because it was trully radically diferent from the other dimensions. As the latter two dimensions are called "imaginary" by humans, in their ignorance they named the 5th, Nightmare. The dimensions fucntion like this: 1st - Measures lentgh and distance between two points, and thus has a beggining and an end. 2nd - Measures breadth and direction of the object in the first dimension. 3rd - Measures volume and magnetude of size. 4th - (Immortals perceive it) Defines the relation between two objects, finding all points of congruencies and silmilarities. 5th - Measures the unique nature or essence of an object in relation to all others, or divergence. That is why they put the 5th dimension like a Chaotic one. But the immortals noted that no creature yet was found to be borne from the 2,3 or 4 dimensions on, why such an importance on the 5th, which spawns life?Perhaps the five dimesions and the five spheres are related...beyond all dimesions lies the Barrier. No Immortal can pass ahead of it. Also (My input here) the 5th dimension has a lot to do with Phenomenology, Personalism and Sartre, Husserl, Merleau-Ponty and other such writers, at least based on what the box said about Essences, etc... ------------------ Concluding, there is much more discussion on perception in the different Dimensions, and walking about them. It is very interesting, and in fact the Gold Box is worth seraching for my friend! Hope i have helped, JJJ "Change, even for the worse." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:42:38 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Havard=20Faanes?= <havardfaa@YAHOO.NO> Subject: GenCon? Okay, so Im going to GenCon. It will be my first trip to the US so Im pretty excited about it. Are anyone else going to show up? Would be nice to meet some fellow gamers face to face over there.. Havard ______________________________________________________ Få den nye Yahoo! Messenger på http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/ Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt så morsom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:13:14 -0400 From: Geoff Gander <au998@FREENET.CARLETON.CA> Subject: Re: GenCon? Havard wrote: > Okay, > so Im going to GenCon. It will be my first trip to the > US so Im pretty excited about it. Are anyone else > going to show up? Would be nice to meet some fellow > gamers face to face over there.. Man, I'd love to go this year, but my budget has already been allocated towards unimportant things, like a house, living expenses, and so forth. :-( Still, I was lucky enough to go in 2001, and I had a blast! My suggestion is to seek out Gary Gygax (if he's attending) - he's very friendly, and will be more than happy to chat for a few minutes. Also, be sure to pick up all those OD&D modules - I got a bunch of them for a very good price. You will NOT regret going! :-) Geoff -- Geoff Gander, BA 97, MPA 02 Carnifex Loremaster/Mad Roleplayer Master of the Elemental Plane of Bureaucracy au998@freenet.carleton.ca : www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Realm/2091 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:15:37 -0700 From: Ramses Ramirez <ramses78@YAHOO.COM> Subject: Re: Nightmare dimension Thanks! And definitely I will need to look for that Gold Box! Lancer --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:34:58 -0500 From: Magister Mystaros <mystaros@EARTHLINK.NET> Subject: Re: GenCon? <<Man, I'd love to go this year, but my budget has already been allocated towards unimportant things, like a house, living expenses, and so forth. :-( Still, I was lucky enough to go in 2001, and I had a blast! >> Dang! I'd hoped to see you there again this year... maybe next year. The way the dollar is going it should be a great deal for you then! :( I will be there the whole show. I'll be helping out at the Scrye booth part-time. <<My suggestion is to seek out Gary Gygax (if he's attending) - he's very friendly, and will be more than happy to chat for a few minutes.>> Gary won't be there this year; he will be a guest of honor at the Milwaukee Game Fest, which is being held in August at the Midwest Express Center (where Gen Con used to be held). I will be running a Lejendary Adventures session at Gen Con, though I can't recall the day off hand. And before anyone asks, it will be Lejendary Earth, not Mystara... (^_^) I might get a chance to run some HackMaster: HackWurld of Mystaros, informally, if I can get enough interest... <<Also, be sure to pick up all those OD&D modules - I got a bunch of them for a very good price.>> Gen Con is THE place to find all that OD&D/Mystara stuff you are looking for, that is for sure. I don't know if they will have an auction this year or not, though... <<You will NOT regret going! :-)>> Definitely not! I've been going just about every year since 1983 (missed only three of them in all that time), and every year is new and remarkable! This year will be especially so, as it is the first in the new location, which, ideally, will handle everything much, much better than the old location. I'll miss the ambiance of Milwaukee (especially the ethnic restaurants) but the better set up should help balance things out... James ****************************** James "Mystaros" Mishler Freelance Writer and Troubleshooter mystaros@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:39:13 -0400 From: Ray Brooks <dragonier@THINKERS.ORG> Subject: Re: GenCon? Some friends, my wife and I are going to GenCon too. We went last year and had a blast. I'm glad we went too since it was the last year in Milwaukee, but we also wanted to be there for the first one in Indianapolis. I'm a long time Mystara nut and lurker on this list. It would be great to get together with some other Mystarans while we're there. Let's plan something. Ray ------------------------------------------------------ > Okay, > so Im going to GenCon. It will be my first trip to the > US so Im pretty excited about it. Are anyone else > going to show up? Would be nice to meet some fellow > gamers face to face over there.. > Havard ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 16 Jun 2003 to 17 Jun 2003 (#2003-158) ****************************************************************