Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 5 Oct 2004 to 6 Oct 2004 (#2004-212) From: Automatic digest processor Date: 07/10/2004, 18:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 7 messages totalling 372 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Fading of Immortals and Blackmoor (2) 2. the Mystaran Almanac has moved (4) 3. The Mystara 3E Site Has Moved ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:11:54 +0200 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Fading of Immortals and Blackmoor I've been slowly working myself through the Blackmoor D20 sourcebook (DAB), looking for connections to Mystara and ways to use elements from that sourcebook in a Mystara campaign. I loved how alot of the deities described have the same or a similar name to a Mystaran deity. Khonornus, Odir[Odin], Terra, Ordana, Hella [Hel], Sollus[Ixion], Thanatos, Faunus and Hydros [Proteus?] andre the examples I can remember off-hand. Also, there are quite a few other immortals...err Gods descrivbed in the book. This lead me to think about what happened to them. My first assumption was that they faded, either at an early stage, or due to the fact that their followers were wiped out during the GRoF. On the other hand, it might be nice to keep some of these guys around. They could be quite useful for developing new cultures for Mystara, even if they are obviously not very well known in the more developed parts of the setting. One idea I had was that "Fading" sort of works like an Energy Drain on Immortals. If their power base is reduced below the level required for that Immorta's current character level, he loses a level. Using this system, some of the Blackmoor deities could still be around, just not having recovered sufficiently from the GRoF yet to make a distinct presence in the world. Then I started thinking about how long it would take to recover a level (3e lets people recover drained levels with rest). But I figured that even if it would take a century to recover one level, all of the Blackmoorians would still be back in buisiness by now. However, if Faded levels only can be recovered by recovering/gaining new followers, there is a good reason why the old Blackmoorian Immortals are still at initiate level. Perhaps they failed to compete with the upcoming post-GRoF generation of Immortals and found themselves lagging behind with a small number of followers and thus a low power level. What do you think? :) Håvard ===== *** Håvard R. Faanes www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardfa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:32:25 +0200 From: Havard Faanes Subject: Re: the Mystaran Almanac has moved --- Herve Musseau skrev: > Like the Vaults, the Mystaran Almanacs have moved > from the website generously > hosted by Gordon to another one, provided by Jenni. > It is available there: > http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/almanac Great! Will we be seeing any layout-wise refreshments of that site any time soon? The MNA-logo has been promised for a long time... ;) Obviously, contents is far more important than looks, and on that department you are doing a wonderful job :) Håvard ===== *** Håvard R. Faanes www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardfa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:48:07 -0700 From: The Stalker Subject: Re: the Mystaran Almanac has moved On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:32:25 +0200, Havard Faanes wrote: > --- Herve Musseau skrev: > >> Like the Vaults, the Mystaran Almanacs have moved >> from the website generously >> hosted by Gordon to another one, provided by Jenni. >> It is available there: >> http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/almanac > > Great! > Will we be seeing any layout-wise refreshments of that > site any time soon? The MNA-logo has been promised for > a long time... ;) > > Obviously, contents is far more important than looks, > and on that department you are doing a wonderful job > :) > > H=E5vard > I'll be more humble and simply hope it will be said be have been last updated sometime later than six years ago ;) - The Stalker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 11:21:27 +1300 From: Chris Furneaux Subject: Re: the Mystaran Almanac has moved From: "Havard Faanes" > Will we be seeing any layout-wise refreshments of that > site any time soon? The MNA-logo has been promised for > a long time... ;) I've talked to Herve about doing a re-design, I just havent actually sat down and done it yet. It is even on my projects list, just the list is long and I've been busy (as you might of noticed I've been lurking a bit). I thought I might make it more consistant with the new cover scheme ;) Anyway I for one am going to miss dnd.starflung.com I don't know why but I found it really easy to remember. Onwards and upwards I guess. Chris Furneaux. P.S. I guess the next address change on the list is for Chris C. to get out of Florida. Hope it all goes well. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:55:48 -0400 From: Donald Eric Kesler Subject: Re: Fading of Immortals and Blackmoor Hello, If I were an Immortal and my involvement on the Prime Material Plane ended with the Great Rain of Fire, I think I would retire to my home plane for a while and sulk. Seriously, I imagine that a number of the Immortals that were active on the Prime before the Great Rain of Fire are very hesitant about mucking around too much with mortal affairs. Of course, there is no reason that the reverse could not also be true. Some Immortals might think that the whole disaster could have been averted if they had only interferred a bit more. I'm starting to ramble here. My main point is this. Just because an Immortal is no longer active on the Prime Material plane, that does not mean that the Immortal in question is no longer alive. Regards and Best Wishes, Donald Eric Kesler > > However, if Faded levels only can be recovered by > recovering/gaining new followers, there is a good > reason why the old Blackmoorian Immortals are still at > initiate level. Perhaps they failed to compete with > the upcoming post-GRoF generation of Immortals and > found themselves lagging behind with a small number of > followers and thus a low power level. > > What do you think? :) > > Håvard > > ===== > *** > Håvard R. Faanes > www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardfa > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:31:09 -0700 From: Jennifer Merrifield Subject: The Mystara 3E Site Has Moved Like the Vaults, and the Mystaran "Net" Almanacs, the Mystara 3E web site has also moved from the servers generously hosted by Gordon McCormick for the past several years to the web server my husband and I host out of our home. The new address for the Mystara 3E Conversion site is: http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/m3e. =20 I have also set up what I'll call a "Hub Site" at http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/ that contains links to all three of the sites previously hosted at starflung.com, some syndicated D&D content [RSS Feed] from WotC and moderated lists for "News and Events" and "Other Fan Sites" (both of which are open to submissions from anyone). Hopefully this will prove to be useful to Mystara and 0E D&D fans, serving to augment and not diminish what is already available at the Vaults of Pandius, the Mystaran "Net" Almanac and the Mystara 3E Conversion site. =20 For those of you with links to the old sites at starflung.com, it would obviously be best to update them, but don't rush about it. The old domains have been redirected to point to our web server, and our web server has been set up to convert and permanently redirect any URL with a starflung.com host header into the correct URL at mystaranet.jamm.com. =20 Finally, I must also offer my sincerest thanks to Gordon for providing us with free space and service all these years, as well as a profound "You're Welcome" to Herve and Shawn for putting up with my "Microsoft Centric" ways and all the various complications of getting the new sites up and running. =20 =20 Jenni =20 -- Jenni A. M. Merrifield Software User Experience Professional Designing to Requirements and walking on Water is EASY. . . . . . So long as both are Frozen. ---------- E-Mail & WinIM: [strawberry @ jamm.com] Personal Blog: [http://strawberryjamm.blogspot.com] --=20 =20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:47:12 -0400 From: Donald Eric Kesler Subject: Re: the Mystaran Almanac has moved Hello All, Who is working on the current Almanac. I have some thoughts that I would like to contribute for the Kingdom of Karameikos, but I'm honestly not sure how this is done. Regards and Best Wishes, Donald Eric Kesler http://www.geocities.com/heroclixleagueofathens/ > From: Havard Faanes > Reply-To: Mystara RPG Discussion > To: MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > Subject: Re: [MYSTARA] the Mystaran Almanac has moved > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:32:25 +0200 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Received: from mc6-f5.hotmail.com ([65.54.252.141]) by mc6-s19.hotmail.com > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 6 Oct 2004 06:48:50 -0700 > Received: from oracle.wizards.com ([209.221.142.150]) by mc6-f5.hotmail.com > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 6 Oct 2004 06:48:49 -0700 > Received: from lotus (10.12.8.13) by oracle.wizards.com (LSMTP for Windows > NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.013612AA@oracle.wizards.com>; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 > 6:47:58 -0700 > Received: from ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM by ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP > release 1.8d) with spool id 40094288 for > MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 06:32:26 -0700 > Received: from web40706.mail.yahoo.com (66.218.78.163) by > oracle.wizards.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id > <0.01361280@oracle.wizards.com>; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 6:32:26 -0700 > Received: from [129.241.28.131] by web40706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, > 06 Oct 2004 15:32:25 CEST > X-Message-Info: pdGgd64Ckwaz2kRhFLXF+Ucyh48xlz8DOzEC1JvO8Ao= > Message-ID: <20041006133225.72796.qmail@web40706.mail.yahoo.com> > In-Reply-To: <20041004095345.21457.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> > Return-Path: owner-mystara-l@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2004 13:48:49.0850 (UTC) > FILETIME=[357F29A0:01C4ABAB] > > --- Herve Musseau skrev: > > > Like the Vaults, the Mystaran Almanacs have moved > > from the website generously > > hosted by Gordon to another one, provided by Jenni. > > It is available there: > > http://www.mystaranet.jamm.com/almanac > > Great! > Will we be seeing any layout-wise refreshments of that > site any time soon? The MNA-logo has been promised for > a long time... ;) > > Obviously, contents is far more important than looks, > and on that department you are doing a wonderful job > :) > > Håvard > > ===== > *** > Håvard R. Faanes > www.stud.ntnu.no/~havardfa > > ******************************************************************** > The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp > The Mystara Homepage: http://www.dnd.starflung.com/ > To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM > with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. > _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 5 Oct 2004 to 6 Oct 2004 (#2004-212) **************************************************************