Subject: MYSTARA-L Digest - 13 Sep 2005 to 14 Sep 2005 (#2005-181) From: Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM> Date: 15/09/2005, 17:00 To: Recipients of MYSTARA-L digests <MYSTARA-L@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM> Reply-to: Mystara RPG Discussion There are 5 messages totalling 171 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. New Immortal: Sir Fain Flinn? (4) 2. Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] New Immortal: Sir Fain Flinn? ******************************************************************** The Other Worlds Homepage: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/OtherWorlds.asp The Mystara Homepage: http://www.pandius.com To unsubscribe, send email to LISTSERV@ORACLE.WIZARDS.COM with UNSUB MYSTARA-L in the body of the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:34:20 -0700 From: Andrew Theisen <jsmill@WANS.NET> Subject: Re: New Immortal: Sir Fain Flinn? --- Havard Faanes <havardfaa@YAHOO.NO> wrote: > The Penhaligon trilogy details among other things > the life and destiny of Sir Fain Flinn, who eventually > through unusual (and rule-breaking) ways end up > achieving immortality. It's been a while since I've read that one, but his Immortality was a little odd, as I recall- didn't he end up sacrificing himself and his immortality somehow by the end of the trilogy? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:15:00 +0200 From: Havard Faanes <havardfaa@YAHOO.NO> Subject: Re: New Immortal: Sir Fain Flinn? --- Andrew Theisen <jsmill@WANS.NET> skrev: > --- Havard Faanes <havardfaa@YAHOO.NO> wrote: > It's been a while since I've read that one, but his > Immortality was a little odd, as I recall- didn't he > end up sacrificing himself and his immortality > somehow > by the end of the trilogy? Well, he ended up locked in an eternal battle with Dayin the Half-Abelaat who by then had become a living gateway to the Abelaat Dimension (which I assume to be the Dimension of Nightmares). I'm not sure that neccesarily prevents him from say, providing spells to worshippers though. Although I'd imagine most of his Power Points are spent in his battle with Dayin. This would also lighten up the otherwise Ãœber-sad tone of the trilogy, which would do alot of good I think. Eventually, perhaps some other Immortals, possibly from the council of intrusion would step in and help Flinn, since it afterall is their resposibility to prevent such invasions. But I guess at the time they were tied up in events related to the Wrath of the Immortals. HÃ¥vard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:00:59 +0200 From: Francesco Defferrari <sturm@LIBERO.IT> Subject: Re: New Immortal: Sir Fain Flinn? Havard Faanes wrote: > Eventually, perhaps some other Immortals, possibly > from the council of intrusion would step in and help > Flinn, since it afterall is their resposibility to > prevent such invasions. But I guess at the time they > were tied up in events related to the Wrath of the > Immortals. Personally, I think Immortal is a bit too much, maybe he should be only a Saint/Hero of Penhaligon and of the Church of Thyatis, probably under Odin or Tarastia? bye Francesco ___________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger: chiamate gratuite in tutto il mondo http://it.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:21:19 +0200 From: Havard Faanes <havardfaa@YAHOO.NO> Subject: Re: New Immortal: Sir Fain Flinn? --- Francesco Defferrari <sturm@LIBERO.IT> skrev: > Personally, I think Immortal is a bit too much, > maybe he should be only a > Saint/Hero of Penhaligon and of the Church of > Thyatis, probably under Odin > or Tarastia? He is specifically described as an immortal though. Also, the concept of Hero Worship is more linked with the Church of Traldara and IMHO Flinn would definately be counted with the Church of Karameikos. In the beginning of book two, I'd say he is an Exalted (Titan or similar), but by the end of Book Three he should be considered a fully fledged immortal. I'm not saying this would have to happen in everyone's campaigns though. I am mostly interested in what stats he would have. I am thinking an Initiate of Thought or Matter. For 3E Domains Strength, Law and Good perhaps? HÃ¥vard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:40:18 +0200 From: Havard Faanes <havardfaa@YAHOO.NO> Subject: Vedr. Re: [MYSTARA] New Immortal: Sir Fain Flinn? --- Dan Eustace <deustace@COMCAST.NET> skrev: > Can you give a summary of the trilogy and Flinn's > trials? I read the 1st > book a long time ago, but I don't remember much of > it. Not planning on > reading the rest, so I'm not worried about any > spoilers. Well, it depends what things you would consider his trials. He is already a legendary hero by the time the first novel begins. Through that novel, he once again proves his honor, glory, courage and faith, but when he confronts his ancient enemy, the Dragon Verdilith, he is killed. It is his apprentice Johauna who eventually confronts and kills Verdilith. However, in the second book, Flinn is back. At that time he is already described as an immortal, but I think at that moment he is probably only raised to Exalted level by Thor. However, through the second novel, he travels with his friend, Braddock the Dwarven Cleric (Who hates Kagyar for some reason), and discovers the Demihuman Relics, one by one, gaining some of their power. By the end he is powerful enough to stop Dayin who has been consumed by the artifact known as the Abaton, making the young wizard a living Gateway into the Dimension of Abelaats. Flinn is allowed a bried reunion with his love, Johauna before he becomes locked in eternal combat with Dayin, keeping the Abelaats out untill Judgement Day. *Terminator Theme* HÃ¥vard ------------------------------ End of MYSTARA-L Digest - 13 Sep 2005 to 14 Sep 2005 (#2005-181) ****************************************************************