* * * Wizards Community Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. Started at 03-20-08 11:47 PM by cool_dude1010 Visit at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1006496 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : cool_dude1010 Date : 03-20-08 11:47 PM Thread Title : Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. Hello everybody,I would like to play D&D 1st ed.,any advice before I embark upon 1st edition? Also,is there a good out of print products website somewhere? Thanks everyone,cool_dude out. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : otisew Date : 03-21-08 06:54 AM Thread Title : Re: Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. Also,is there a good out of print products website somewhere? Thanks everyone,cool_dude out. For out of print material, check out the "sticky thread" at the top of this forum.:) As for advice, mine is, just have fun.:D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : Agathokles Date : 03-21-08 07:26 AM Thread Title : Re: Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. Hello everybody,I would like to play D&D 1st ed.,any advice before I embark upon 1st edition? Also,is there a good out of print products website somewhere? Thanks everyone,cool_dude out. Uhm, do you mean AD&D 1st edition, or D&D 1st edition? Anyway, in both cases a good OOP website is dragonsfoot.org. G. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : cool_dude1010 Date : 03-21-08 09:26 PM Thread Title : Re: Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. Advanced D&D or Basic D&D...what are the differences? P.S. Thank you everyone for their input. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : RedWizard Date : 03-22-08 06:28 PM Thread Title : Re: Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. AD&D stands for Advanced Dungeans and Dragons as opposed to D&D which was called most often Basic D&D (though near it's end, the suppliments put out for basic were really very good and in some cases better then that printed for AD&D). Basic as the name implies kept things simple having elves dwarves and halflings as both a race and a class while humans chose between the core classes such as fighter, thief, magic-user and cleric. There were other differences as well with Advanced having a more detailed set of rules. If you have played any of the other editions of D&D you should be ok to just start with AD&D. Ebay is usually chock full of 1st edition books and suppliments. Are there any others in your group familiar with 1st edition AD&D? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : cool_dude1010 Date : 03-23-08 12:49 PM Thread Title : Re: Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. Thanks you,I'm thinking of buying the Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 1st edition.I am going to go back to 1st ed. before 4th ed.I hope I enjoy my 1st ed. experiences! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Author : Agathokles Date : 03-23-08 03:01 PM Thread Title : Re: Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. Basic as the name implies kept things simple having elves dwarves and halflings as both a race and a class while humans chose between the core classes such as fighter, thief, magic-user and cleric. There were other differences as well with Advanced having a more detailed set of rules. This really depends on what you are taking for "Basic". It's true for the original D&D, as well as for actual "Basic" sets. But when you get to BECMI or RC, it is not true anymore -- both are complex systems that allow most other classes (Mystics, Paladins, Druids, and Avengers, if you stick to the core books, dwarf clerics, dual class halflings, high-level elf wizards, monster PC races with multiclassing options, and human shamans, specialist wizards, specialist clerics, variant thieves, and character kits if you take into account additional books), as well as a powerful weapon specialization system (more accurate and effective than the simple AD&D version) and a full skill system (basically the same as in AD&D 2e). The nice thing is that the system is very modular -- you want a simple, fast dungeon crawl, use only the Basic Set; you want a game that handles weird characters, add the Player Crucibles; you want a more complex characterization, add weapon mastery and general skills, as well as character specializations; you want support for PC rulers and mass combat, add the Companion Set, etc. GP -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Author : RedWizard Date : 03-23-08 03:16 PM Thread Title : Re: Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. This really depends on what you are taking for "Basic". It's true for the original D&D, as well as for actual "Basic" sets. But when you get to BECMI or RC, it is not true anymore -- both are complex systems that allow most other classes (Mystics, Paladins, Druids, and Avengers, if you stick to the core books, dwarf clerics, dual class halflings, high-level elf wizards, monster PC races with multiclassing options, and human shamans, specialist wizards, specialist clerics, variant thieves, and character kits if you take into account additional books), as well as a powerful weapon specialization system (more accurate and effective than the simple AD&D version) and a full skill system (basically the same as in AD&D 2e). The nice thing is that the system is very modular -- you want a simple, fast dungeon crawl, use only the Basic Set; you want a game that handles weird characters, add the Player Crucibles; you want a more complex characterization, add weapon mastery and general skills, as well as character specializations; you want support for PC rulers and mass combat, add the Companion Set, etc. GP I agree with you that D&D was putting out good stuff near the end of it's run, the Gazeteers come particularly quick to mind, we converted them for use in our advanced game. Though I think when referring to Basic the OP was simply meaning the boxed basic set. Only a few oldsters such as ourselves remember much of the expansion books put out for basic such as the Creature Crucibles. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 9] Author : Agathokles Date : 03-23-08 03:24 PM Thread Title : Re: Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. Though I think when referring to Basic the OP was simply meaning the boxed basic set. That's likely -- though "Basic" is often (somewhat inaccurately) used to describe the whole Holmes to RC group of games. Also, using the Red Box or equivalent Basic sets alone is not that likely -- without at least an Expert Set, you won't be able to play beyond 3rd level. Only a few oldsters such as ourselves remember much of the expansion books put out for basic such as the Creature Crucibles. True, but since most of these are readily available as ESDs, advertising them a bit won't hurt ;) GP -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 10] Author : Koushiro Date : 03-24-08 07:16 PM Thread Title : Re: Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. You know, amazon.com is a really good source for classic D&D products. If your looking for basic, don't forget about the Rules Cyclopedia. Easier then tracking down books and boxes and colors. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 11] Author : Werral Date : 03-28-08 01:29 PM Thread Title : Re: Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. This is a good 1E AD&D or OD&D site: http://knights-n-knaves.com They even have a free download called OSRIC, kind of the SRD of 1E (but it's meant more as a teaser to get you interested than as a game in itself). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 12] Author : Etarnon Date : 03-29-08 01:27 AM Thread Title : Re: Advice for somone wanting to start playing 1st edition. eBay 1e AD&D Books are dirt cheap, every day of the week. Long live the game of Gygax! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Downloaded from Wizards Community (http://forums.gleemax.com) at 05-10-08 08:22 AM.