Petition for Mystara 3.5/d20

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#1

gawain_viii

Apr 10, 2006 0:37:59
I know this is a long-shot, but what the hey? I've been playing D&D since the beginning (not really, I was about a decade late, 1984) but the Known World of Mystara to include the Savage Coast/Red Steel/Orc's Head and the Hollow World (That was a CRUEL joke to us old fans, btw) is absolutely the single best campaign setting ever created for any fantasy role-playing game.

To wit: It is unique in it's design giving it the perfect balance of background and flexibility. It is more detailed than Greyhawk, less rigid than the Forgotten Realms, and DragonLance is virtually unplayable unless you absolutely ignore the Chronicles which the setting is based upon.
It is the only published campaign world which evolved naturally, from the minds of dozends of different authors, designers and fans, provinding a realistic theme; as opposed to all other settings which were created as a whole all at once, providing a lackluster "invented" feel.
It is built upon the longest, oldest, and best selling themes and stories of all time (real-world legends, myths, and epic fantasies from the minds of Tolkien and CS Lewis). It is the last campaign setting which holds true to the original design and flavor of the intents of the creators of the game.

As such, we the undersigned (under-posted?) hereby demand (or kindly request, if you prefer ;) ) that the World of Mystara with all related campaign settings, cosmologies, and Immortals, be reinstated and re-published as a full-fledged campaign updated to the most current version of the rules-set, either in-house by WotC, or that WotC allows some third-party company license to do so on their own. [On knees begging PLEEEEAAASSSEEE!!!! ]
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Signers use the following post:
[Full Name], [City, STATE/CONTRY], Loyal gaming customer since: [Year]


Roger L. Girtman, Robins AFB, GA, Loyal gaming customer since: 1984
#2

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 1:38:49
Signers use the following post:
[Full Name], [City, STATE/CONTRY], Loyal gaming customer since: [Year]


Roger L. Girtman, Robins AFB, GA, Loyal gaming customer since: 1984

Giovanni Paniccia, Rome/Italy, Loyal gaming customer since: 1983
#3

thorf

Apr 10, 2006 1:50:19
It never hurts to ask, right? :D

Thorfinn Tait, Akita, Japan, loyal gaming customer since 1988
#4

spellweaver

Apr 10, 2006 2:33:47
Jesper Andersen, Copenhagen, Denmark, loyal gaming customer since 1990.
#5

gazza555

Apr 10, 2006 3:19:10
Gary Davies, Liverpool, UK, Loyal gaming customer since: 1978
#6

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 3:49:22
Magnien Leo, Montpellier, France, loyal gaming customer since 1993
#7

agona

Apr 10, 2006 5:02:00
PT Theunissen, [Nijmegen, Netherlands], Loyal gaming customer since: 1996
#8

sir_knight_02_dup

Apr 10, 2006 5:58:45
Mystara is my favorite Campaign Setting. I do not believe that this thread will do anything at all except be closed/moved by the Mods.

However, I would gladly purchase any product with Mystara stamped on its cover! From Karameikos to Glantri, I am a fan!

Lawrence L. Barber, Jr., Front Royal, VA, Loyal gaming customer since: 1988
#9

Goldrak

Apr 10, 2006 5:59:13
João Cartaxo, Abrantes, Portugal, loyal gaming customer since 1992
#10

pangalactic

Apr 10, 2006 6:04:16
Chris M. Bissette, Manchester, UK, Loyal gaming customer since: 1993
#11

Cainin

Apr 10, 2006 7:25:24
Eric Sweeney, Columbus OH, Loyal gaming customer since: 1990
#12

arakor

Apr 10, 2006 7:34:33
Gareth Larter, London, UK, Loyal gaming customer since: 1983

Go Mystara!!
#13

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 7:37:31
Jostein H. Bakke, Oslo, Norway, Loyal gaming customer since: 1994
#14

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 7:52:03
Geoff Gander, Ottawa, Canada, loyal gaming customer since: 1984.
#15

ziggy_killroy

Apr 10, 2006 7:52:24
Phil McGarvey, Orlando, Florida, USA. Loyal gaming customer since 1996.
#16

Traianus_Decius_Aureus

Apr 10, 2006 8:00:41
Jamie Baty, Charlottesville, Virginia, USA. Loyal gaming customer since 1986.
#17

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 8:45:56
Gilles Leblanc, Canada, Loyal gaming customer since 1989.

Comment : I still play a Mystara game every week with my friends and another Mystara game with a slightly different group once every other week.

I know of another Mystara DM where I live. The setting is still popular.
#18

Hugin

Apr 10, 2006 9:54:08
Sheldon Morris, Guelph Ontario, Canada, loyal gaming customer since 1986.

I also currently have a Mystara campaign on the go.
#19

jakob_pawlowicz

Apr 10, 2006 10:04:14
Jakob Pawlowicz, Copenhagen, Denmark, loyal gaming customer since 1989.
#20

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 10:10:43
Jacob Skytte, Copenhagen, Denmark, Loyal gaming customer since: 1985
#21

danielinthewolvesden

Apr 10, 2006 10:28:38
No thanks, we don't need another setting. Customer since 1972.
#22

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 10:40:03
I vote!

I've been playing in Mystara since I was old enough to roll dices!

Let Mystara reborn form his ashes!
#23

hihama

Apr 10, 2006 12:22:52
Harri Mäki, Viiala, Finland, Loyal Gaming Customer since 1982.
#24

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 12:46:03
Andrew Steven Harris, Prague, Czech Republic, loyal gaming customer since 1978.
#25

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 12:53:41
James E Veith, Henrietta Texas/USA, loyal gaming customer since 1995
#26

mrfilthyike

Apr 10, 2006 13:50:28
S. M. Murphy; Casselberry, Fl; loyal gaming customer since 1989.
#27

verro_diabolico

Apr 10, 2006 13:54:11
Stefano Caire, Genoa/Italy, Loyal gaming customer since: 1986
#28

vinimagus

Apr 10, 2006 14:06:45
Vinicius R. de Moraes, Sao Paulo, Brazil, Loyal gaming customer since 1992

Mystara: it's original, it's beautiful, it's unique. One can be in a fantasy medieval setting and learning History at the same time!

Vini
#29

soel_griffin

Apr 10, 2006 16:36:45
I've never played Mystara, but it always held a little intrigue for me, looking through some of the material. Hollow World sounds fantastic, too! Honestly though, I think this would be more effective on the Paizo boards, as I could see Dragon printing some Mystara material before WotC.

They used to say campaign settings were too niche, but now they've given us environmental books which could have been in one book instead of three. Niche, indeed.

Paul Griffiths, West Monroe, LA, USA, Loyal gaming customer since 1994
#30

johnbiles

Apr 10, 2006 17:16:18
John Biles, Huntsville, Texas, Loyal gaming customer since: 1982
#31

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 17:31:26
Simon Lanthier, Lemoyne, Canada, Loyal gaming customer since: 2000
#32

Multizar

Apr 10, 2006 18:18:15
Stone Marshall, Wichita Falls, Texas, Loyal Dungeon Master since 1986
#33

salemp

Apr 10, 2006 18:42:42
Jason Murphy, Perth, Western Australia, Loyal gaming customer since: 1983

Mystara is a great setting. There writers/devlopers displayed an obvious passion for most of their mystara work. Which is more than can be said for alot of the other campaign settings.

Still game there on a regular basis.
#34

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 18:52:53
Arnt Olav Foseide, Oslo, Norway, 1990

I thought Kenzerco held the rights to Mystara?
#35

zombiegleemax

Apr 10, 2006 19:39:26
Mystara is the first world i played on. It is now all most 20 years i have collected mystara books to get a compleate collection. I have also joined a community of players to keep mystara alive, if only supported by players and members. If this doesn't work we can all create a 3.5E mystara in the vaults of pandius! The immortals may relegate us the outer planes for doing so but it is a lot of fun.
Dean White, Peterborough, ON/Canada, Loyal gaming customer since: 1987
#36

caliir

Apr 10, 2006 20:17:36
Kevin Wyton, Brandon MB, Canada.customer since 1984.

There is something in Mystara for everyone. Check out the Mystara Message Board and Mailing List. I am sure at least half the work for a 3.5 Edition has already been done.
#37

thasis

Apr 10, 2006 20:29:54
Mattius Smith, Langley, BC, Canada Playing Since: 1996

I wasn't around during the Mystara age, but damn I wish I was.
#38

zombiegleemax

Apr 11, 2006 9:59:29
François Thibault, Canada, Loyal gaming customer since 1994.

Funny thing, some of you are loyal gaming customers since before I was born... Why wasn't I born 20 years before? Probably so I could avoid the disco era...
#39

Cthulhudrew

Apr 11, 2006 10:51:35
Andrew Theisen, Long Beach, CA, U.S.A., gaming customer since around 1981 or thereabouts.
#40

jwt

Apr 11, 2006 11:39:36
Jeff T, North Carolina, USA, loyal gaming customer since 1977

Which 1977! - holy cow.... I am getting up there in years.
#41

zombiegleemax

Apr 11, 2006 12:40:12
Dennis A. Pascale Jr., Edison, NJ (USA), Loyal Gamer since 1983 (or thereabouts?)
#42

zombiegleemax

Apr 11, 2006 15:23:30
Jason O'Brien, Cobh, Cork, Ireland, Loyal Gamer since 1984 (or thereabouts?)

Up until recently I thought it was '85, but my mother pointed out it was the winter of '84. Thats how much fun i've had time flew so quickly I couldn't keep track. Mystara Rules.
#43

zombiegleemax

Apr 11, 2006 15:53:28
Alexander Korshavn, Oslo, Norway, Loyal gamer since 1991
#44

culture20

Apr 11, 2006 18:04:32
The best part of Mystara is it's easy to add a Nation (or group) as the Savage Coast add-on shows: take a real life culture, tweak it with fantasy, and it's suddenly a perfect fit for Mystara. ...or Bargle; I must have come up with a zillion escapes for that wile-e-coyote of evil wizards.
David Tauriainen, IN, USA. Loyal gaming customer since 1980-something.
#45

maddog

Apr 11, 2006 20:33:56
Ray Allen, Christiansburg, VA, gamer since 1984 and my wife, Tonya Allen, Christiansburg, VA, gamer since 1995.

We have almost always played Mystara although other worlds and homebrew have been at my table. Mystara is still the best gaming world out there. The only problem is conversions.

--Ray.
#46

darth_borehd

Apr 11, 2006 21:12:55
, Sacramento, CA, loyal gaming customer since 1981.

First game world played was Mystara.
#47

stanles

Apr 11, 2006 21:13:59
Shawn Stanley, New York, Loyal gaming customer since: 1984
#48

azzy

Apr 11, 2006 21:16:09
Kynewulf MacGowan, St. Augustine, FL, Loyal gaming customer since: 1987

P.S.: Please do it right--keep the continuity and flavour of the original Known World setting (and please don't screw it up like was done with the jump to AD&D 2e).
#49

gawain_viii

Apr 11, 2006 22:04:03
I figured they'd move this thread back over here--I'm suprised of how long it thook though. Unfortunately it does no good over here, I wanted OTHER people to see it, I know everyone here would sign. oh well... At least my project hasn't stalled yet (but it is moving slower than I would have liked.)

Roger
#50

Hugin

Apr 11, 2006 22:42:04
I figured they'd move this thread back over here--I'm suprised of how long it thook though. Unfortunately it does no good over here, I wanted OTHER people to see it, I know everyone here would sign. oh well... At least my project hasn't stalled yet (but it is moving slower than I would have liked.)

Roger

I don't want to clog up this thread with non-petition signing (I already did), but just to let you know, this thread still appears in the future releases forum and now brings them here. May turn out to be beneficial to us...
#51

brotherdog

Apr 12, 2006 2:09:49
Derek Payton, Cheyenne, Wyoming, loyal gaming customer since 1978

It would be nice to at least see the Savage Coast again..... :D
#52

Mortepierre

Apr 12, 2006 3:01:49
, Brussels, Belgium, loyal gaming customer since 1982.

It is more detailed than Greyhawk, less rigid than the Forgotten Realms, and DragonLance is virtually unplayable unless you absolutely ignore the Chronicles which the setting is based upon.

While I am very much in favor of an updated version of Mystara (it's my 2nd favorite setting after GH), I don't think "bashing" the other "oldies" is the way to go.

GH may not benefit from a cartographer of Thorf's skills but we have just as many talented writers who have added to canon-lore as you do.

FR.. well, I won't touch that with a 10 ft pole :P

As for DL, that is patently false and indicative of someone who either doesn't know the setting that well or didn't adventure in it with a DM worthy of that title. Just because TSR's first DL adventures were all aimed at "playing the part" of the Companions doesn't mean you couldn't do something else, either during the War of the Lance or before/after. I ran a 3 years campaign there once that began during the WotL and my players - despite having all read the Chronicles - never had the impression there were "limited" in any way, nor that they couldn't do something as significant as what the "guys from Solace" were doing.

I respect your love for Mystara (just as I hope others will respect my devotion to GH) but it's no excuse to disparage other settings in order to make yours stand in a better light. The Known World has enough qualities on its own that it doesn't need that kind of "help". At least IMHO...
#53

zombiegleemax

Apr 12, 2006 3:32:36
Thibault Sarlat (a.k.a Clenarius), loyal customer and player since 1985.

Mystara is really unique in its flavor. The greatest contributors have made it what it is today. It is really a shame that so few people are aware of its real nature and potential. Hopefully the fans are still working on it. Too bad the suits can't see the potential.
#54

gawain_viii

Apr 12, 2006 8:25:38
Mortepierre, I was not intending to bash the other worlds, I was merely making a comparisson of design styles. Roger
#55

RPGpundit

Apr 12, 2006 10:25:14
Vinicius R. de Moraes, Sao Paulo, Brazil, Loyal gaming customer since 1992

Vini

Vinicius De Moraes?! I thought he was dead! And I had no idea that the guy who wrote "Girl from Ipanema" was a Mystara fan.. :D

Anyways, sadly it really really won't amount to anything. Think about it: the Hollow World was part of the April Fool's Joke, the "joke" being that anyone would ever want to see it in print again. That should give you some idea of the probabilities of Mystara ever coming back again.

RPGPundit
#56

vgeisz_dup

Apr 12, 2006 10:33:52
Vernon Geisz, Augusta, Georgia, USA,Loyal gaming customer since: 1982
#57

zombiegleemax

Apr 12, 2006 19:45:40
John Arendt, Boulder Colorado - TSR customer since 1980

--I suppose if Mystara were updated to 3.5 and d20 (including Karameikos and Glantri), I would finally have a reason to purchase the new books and move my gaming group out of the OD&D Classic Era. :D
#58

gawain_viii

Apr 12, 2006 19:58:18
For those that don't know, I'm working on a Mystara d20 project. The going is slow, but I hope to have something the fan community will be proud of. The details are being kept secret for now. If anyone is interested in helping though, we could still use another hand or two. Check out the "A Call to Arms (M3E II)" thread. --Roger
#59

zombiegleemax

Apr 13, 2006 17:32:53
Patrick Sullivan, Tempe, Arizona, USA. Loyal gaming customer since: 1986
#60

havard

Apr 14, 2006 8:47:12
Håvard Faanes, Norway. Gaming since 1987.

Mystara has a classic fantasy flavour, yet retains a certain uniqueness which has helped it retain a loyal fan base even so many years after the line was cancelled by TSR.

Seeing something new for this setting would definately make me want to buy it.

Håvard
#61

zombiegleemax

Apr 14, 2006 13:48:47
Francesco Defferrari, Naples/Italy, Loyal gaming customer since: 1988
#62

jl3712

May 12, 2006 19:27:16
Jovan Lopez de Victoria, Brooklyn, New York, USA. Loyal gaming customer since: 1996
#63

wilhelm_

May 13, 2006 5:57:52
Átila Pires dos Santos, Brasília, DF, Brazil. Loyal gaming customer since: 1994
#64

cidcampeador

May 13, 2006 7:03:10
Ignacio Sevilla Noarbe, Madrid, Spain. Loyal gaming customer since: 1987
#65

zendrolion

May 15, 2006 4:50:07
Simone Neri, Firenze, Italy. Loyal gaming customer since 1987.
#66

zombiegleemax

May 19, 2006 3:39:20
Federico Kaftal, Milano (Italy), Loyal gaming customer since 1986.

Long live Mystara!
#67

zombiegleemax

May 19, 2006 4:23:19
Holy Ixion! I had not noticed this thread so far, bad bad Marco!

Anyway, I don't think another d20 version would do any good to Mystara, cause it seems to me it's still pretty alive and kicking, and I like the way it is handled on the net. But I'm adding my name to the list nonetheless, if it is useful to make other fans happy and have a complete 3E Mystara Sourcebook (I wouldn't ask for more, frankly speaking.. well, okay, maybe Monsters of Mystara too :P )

Marco Dalmonte, Ravenna (Italy), Loyal gaming customer since 1990.
#68

zombiegleemax

May 19, 2006 7:11:22
[Full Name], [City, STATE/CONTRY], Loyal gaming customer since: [Year]

Fabio Montini, Voghera-PV- Italy, gaming since 1986
#69

doctorromulus

May 19, 2006 10:03:20
Antonio Romulus Reading, PA USA Loyal gaming customer since:1981
#70

sheridan

May 25, 2006 18:43:29
Scott Moore, NY, USA, loyal TSR/WotC customer since 1983.
#71

alcamtar

Feb 16, 2007 14:37:54
Mike Harvey, OR, USA, loyal customer since 1981
#72

the_great_green_god

Feb 17, 2007 7:44:12
B. Matt Conklin, Detroit Michigan, Mystara/Known World fan since 1984.

"B4" and "The Red Box" were my indroductions to the game of D&D. Though not my first nor my last, I hold Classic D&D and it's homeworld in my top five favorite role-playing games/premade worlds.
#73

phoenixmcl

Feb 17, 2007 11:06:59
I do agree once a year that a published adventure for mystara is a good idea.


#74

zombiegleemax

Feb 20, 2007 3:34:58
Michele C. , Fano (Italy), Loyal gaming customer since 1987.
#75

janusunaj

Feb 23, 2007 3:04:54
Mesa, AZ, United States Janus Shepherd Loyal Gaming fan since, well, 1999. Not that long, but I don't have Ebberon and the Forgotten Realms are too fanciful for me, even if it is good enough to play.
#76

gawain_viii

Feb 23, 2007 10:37:33
I started this tread in a moment of desperation. I was stalled in my project, and was saddened my my lack of in-person games--our group was on hiatus at the time. I wanted, at that moment, that WotC would just publish a Mystara Core Book (since, at the time, I was making no headway) and then leave it alone (so they don't muck it up like everything else with too many suppliments).

I think it's great... and amazing, that even now, people are still adding their names to the list.

Now that I have made a significant amount of progress, and am nearing a draft-completion, my "want" for a published Core Book has waned drastically. I'm not saying to stop signing, as if they do choose to revive Mystara, I'd gladly give them my work (with proper credit, of course)... since I'm doing little more than compile it anyway--you guys have written most of it, piece by piece, although most of you probably don't know it yet--lol (And I do apologize in advance if I miss a name in the credits. I am trying to keep track of whose material I'm stealing, but a few notes have been lost in translation).

Roger
#77

morphail_o

Feb 24, 2007 9:58:31
Ohad Shaham, Tel Aviv, Israel. Loyal RPG costumer since 1990.

This thread is a good idea even just for the opportunity to see who is who.
#78

rhialto

Feb 24, 2007 15:42:52
, Saitama, Japan, loyal gaming customer since 1986.
#79

dualwolf

Feb 26, 2007 15:10:48
Alex Campbell Peterborough UK.
Mystran inhabitant since Circa 1984
My only request is that they stop calling them "Immortals" and start calling them GODS!
They were only called imortals to prevent religious people from getting offended from what I gather..
#80

barons_man

Mar 04, 2007 15:40:50
Chris N, Accrington, gaming since '78, oh immortals!, that's a long time.