Amber & Blood

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#1

zombiegleemax

Mar 14, 2007 22:10:58
Does anyone know the release date on Margaret Weis' third book in the Dark Disciple trilogy, Amber & Blood. The second book came out over a year ago, and I can't find any information about potential release dates of the next one, last I checked it was blocked to come out in early 2007, but we're kinda past early 2007 now and still no word I've seen. Anyone else know anything I don't?
#2

rath_the_ranger

Mar 15, 2007 8:16:47
Does anyone know the release date on Margaret Weis' third book in the Dark Disciple trilogy, Amber & Blood. The second book came out over a year ago, and I can't find any information about potential release dates of the next one, last I checked it was blocked to come out in early 2007, but we're kinda past early 2007 now and still no word I've seen. Anyone else know anything I don't?

It sucks that there is no longer a search option on the new format of these boards. Here is a link to the same question from a few weeks back...

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=770703
#3

zombiegleemax

Mar 15, 2007 10:09:23
I think that the release date might be pushed back even more since her and Tracy are working on a new series.
#4

zombiegleemax

Mar 15, 2007 16:48:47
Since books tend to be released about 10 months apart (and this holds from paperback to hardcover), it should be out in Sept or Oct this year (which is also when they tend to release new HCs). Since they haven't mentioned any books past Aug in the release schedule, I can't confirm.

Oggie
#5

zombiegleemax

Mar 15, 2007 17:32:30
I wish that we would get an update somewhere to let us know.
#6

lancereaver

Mar 19, 2007 8:11:47
...her and Tracy are working on a new series.

What is it?
#7

rath_the_ranger

Mar 19, 2007 8:24:33
What is it?

Well, "Lost Chronicles" for sure; not certain if they have anything else in the works.
#8

zombiegleemax

Mar 19, 2007 8:29:02
They announced something a week or so ago on the Dragonlance webpage or the Nexus about them working on a new trilogy, I dont think it was for WOTC.
#9

lancereaver

Mar 20, 2007 8:05:18
My apologies Trey, but what is WOTC?:embarrass
#10

rath_the_ranger

Mar 20, 2007 8:39:59
My apologies Trey, but what is WOTC?:embarrass

Wizards of the Coast
#11

zombiegleemax

Mar 20, 2007 9:55:23
My apologies Trey, but what is WOTC?:embarrass

Wizards of the Coast! :D :P
#12

lancereaver

Mar 21, 2007 8:08:02
Okay....so now I feel a little dumb...:embarrass
#13

zombiegleemax

Mar 21, 2007 10:05:06
Now you know what it means so you are no longer ignorant! Rejoice and be glad!
#14

lancereaver

Mar 21, 2007 14:07:17
And so I shall do just that!
#15

zombiegleemax

Mar 21, 2007 18:20:59
:angelhide "And the Angels in Heaven rejoice over the education of one iggnunt person"
#16

lancereaver

Mar 22, 2007 8:35:27
YAY!!!!

Anyway, back to the original subject, so is this new thing Weis and Hickman doing not DragonLance? As you know, I'm interested in anything they write for DL, because I wonder if they'll use my ideas (see forum "Ideas that should be made into books").
#17

zombiegleemax

Mar 22, 2007 11:42:16
I dont think that it has anything to do with world of Krynn.
#18

ebrightblade

Mar 31, 2007 15:22:41
.....yeah....
I posed this same question about 4 months ago...so far nadda. This excuse of 'a book every 10 months' is total crap to me. The first two were released a year apart, with the paperbacks following up about 10 months after each, but it looks like this last one is goin to be close to 2 years or more in the making.
I'm guessing this fall, hopefully summer. Although that's entirely me just guessing. No one from the DL forums or WOTC has been able to give me an answer, which is slightly aggravating considering that I THOUGHT that particular trilogy had some real signifigance in the DL world and therefore would be kinda a priority or at the very least a project well known enough throughhout at least a few people to be able to answer a bloody simple question like that, but maybe thats just me being stupid?
Of course, in theory the Revised Bestiary has been due out since last November as well.
So another guess would be that everyone who has anything to do with either of those books either dropped the projects or rolled out on vacation...and good for them! Afterall, what kinda company sticks to production schedules without taking a few weeks off here and there?
And with that, I'd like to apologize for venting. I really do dig all the DL stuff, this crap of not even being able to get a straight answer from someone is just getting slightly annoying at this point.
#19

zombiegleemax

Apr 01, 2007 11:18:58
Let it be known that others share your frustrations.
#20

zombiegleemax

Apr 08, 2007 0:21:54
Since books tend to be released about 10 months apart (and this holds from paperback to hardcover), it should be out in Sept or Oct this year (which is also when they tend to release new HCs). Since they haven't mentioned any books past Aug in the release schedule, I can't confirm.

Oggie

I agree with OGAM engineer, Amber and Blood should come out around summer 2007. The time between the 1st and 2nd books was around 18 months so I'll would say August 2007. This is only a guess thou and I haven't seen anything offical on the release date. The sooner the better would be nice, like you guys I want to know how this series will play out.

#21

zombiegleemax

Apr 08, 2007 15:48:57
That cliff hanger that ended the second book needs to be resolved!!
#22

lancereaver

Apr 11, 2007 8:12:51
I have to read those books!
#23

zombiegleemax

Apr 11, 2007 21:38:46
Get to it and make sure you tan now that you are under the permanent geas Lance.
#24

lancereaver

Apr 12, 2007 8:13:44
I've been wandering around in the sun alot lately. Unfortunately, I'm not a nice golden brown. Instead, I'm just a nasty shade of red.
#25

zombiegleemax

Apr 13, 2007 7:29:32
In time, in time!
#26

lancereaver

Apr 13, 2007 8:10:42
If I burn, I'll eventually tan!
#27

Dragonhelm

Apr 13, 2007 12:10:21


I agree with OGAM engineer, Amber and Blood should come out around summer 2007. The time between the 1st and 2nd books was around 18 months so I'll would say August 2007. This is only a guess thou and I haven't seen anything offical on the release date. The sooner the better would be nice, like you guys I want to know how this series will play out.


Amber and Blood will probably come out either later this year, or the start of next (rough estimate). WotC wanted Margaret to finish Dragons of the Highlord Skies first, which pushed A&B back some.


Well, "Lost Chronicles" for sure; not certain if they have anything else in the works.

Margaret and Tracy are working on a new setting called Dragonships, which sounds great. Tracy and Laura are working on a new series called Drakis.
#28

darthsylver

Apr 13, 2007 20:13:11
I'm sorry but I made up my own ending to the Dark Disciple trilogy and am looking more to the third book in the taladas trilogy.
#29

zombiegleemax

Apr 13, 2007 20:29:06
Darth, you naughty naughty boy!
#30

zombiegleemax

Apr 13, 2007 21:00:49
I'm sorry but I made up my own ending to the Dark Disciple trilogy and am looking more to the third book in the taladas trilogy.

Haha! Thats pretty funny... I am just about to the point of making my own ending up myself.
#31

darthsylver

Apr 14, 2007 6:09:53
I'm not trying to be mean or anything I just can't stand it when authors start a series of books and then make you wait longer than they should. I know that the creative spark does not just come easy, but I feel that when you start a trilogy then you should stick to that trilogy rather than switching to a whole different topic rather than finishing what you started. And DL is not the only author that do that, I am still waiting for Tom Clancy to give me his next book for the Jack Ryan series (the book after The Teeth of the Tiger) because he makes you think that there is going to be another book. I can wait for books believe me, but when I know that the author is writing something for a different series then I tend to lose interest in the first series.
#32

zombiegleemax

Apr 14, 2007 8:47:54
Darth, if you plan on doing anything Dragonlance (especially game products) prepare to develop the patience of Job.
#33

aliothefool

Apr 14, 2007 9:30:27
I'm not trying to be mean or anything I just can't stand it when authors start a series of books and then make you wait longer than they should. I know that the creative spark does not just come easy, but I feel that when you start a trilogy then you should stick to that trilogy rather than switching to a whole different topic rather than finishing what you started. And DL is not the only author that do that, I am still waiting for Tom Clancy to give me his next book for the Jack Ryan series (the book after The Teeth of the Tiger) because he makes you think that there is going to be another book. I can wait for books believe me, but when I know that the author is writing something for a different series then I tend to lose interest in the first series.

While I agree with the principle of your argument, I disagree with the direction you're sending your malice.

Based on what Dragonhelm said a couple posts back, this is not MW's decision. Rather, it seems to be coming from the WotC PTB.

I don't know about Clancy, I don't read his books, but I got into the Frankenstein series from Koontz that is still hanging on it's next novel. He's got a bunch of different books that have come out in the meantime himself.

I don't blame the authors for these occurrances. It's the publishers that demand the titles AFAIK. Of course, I don't work in the business, so I'm going on theory, but I don't think I'm too far from the truth.

Perhaps DH or Cam can weigh in on this topic, and maybe provide some clarity. Trust me, I'm dying to see how this twist with Mina plays out. I'm so interested, I'm considering not waiting for the paperback, and just throw down the extra cash to buy the hardcover, just to see what happens, which I never do.

I'd just hate to pile blame on MW for something she doesn't control, if in fact, that is the case. Besides, her and TH are giving us fans what we've long been pining for, the DL movie. So if things like that are pushing back the time to market for this book, I have to submit to the will of the Queen of Darkness.
#34

leowar

Apr 14, 2007 14:01:47
AlioTheFool, you are totaly right, everthing has to wait for the dragonlance movie. It will be a glorious day for MW and TH and all the dragonlance-fans when the movie is finally finished.
#35

zombiegleemax

Apr 14, 2007 16:16:58
I dont see how what Darth said was negative. He was stating his frustration and nothing more.
#36

darthsylver

Apr 14, 2007 18:21:23
I am not mad at anybody. Like Trey said it is just frustration with the whole process.
#37

aliothefool

Apr 15, 2007 8:30:47
I am not mad at anybody. Like Trey said it is just frustration with the whole process.

Yeah, sorry, I guess malice was a poor choice of words.

As for frustraton with the whole process, yeah, I can agree with that. It happens all the time to authors, and in return, the fans of said authors. It's unfortunate, but like anything else, it's a business, and companies are in business to make money.

It happens a lot in the computer/console game industry too. Does it make sense? *shrug*

Anyway, I share everyone's disappointment at the wait. I moaned about the decision to go hardcover before paperback on Amber and Iron for days on end. Now I'd just be happy to get the book in ANY form.

Interestingly though, I've seen Mina get a really bad rap around DL fandom. I'm not sure why, since I think she's the most complex character in the setting aside from Raistlin. I guess those people are fine with the direction of the novel line right now.
#38

darthsylver

Apr 15, 2007 11:35:31
Well based on the commend about raistlin and Mina, I have come to this conclusion.

Raistlin was a completely self-involved character who did what he wanted, when he wanted, and how he wanted. He did not follow somebody else or their ideas unless it fit into his own plans or schemes.

Mina on the other hand has done nothing but follow somebody else's command. First Takhisis and now Chemosh. She finally did something of her own deciding when she raised the tower from the blood sea. (Of course this was something that DL fans, or at least me, have been waiting to see ever since the cataclysm. Restoring a tower of High Sorcery has always been big on my list of campaign ideas.)

This may also be a reason why most DL and FR fans do not always see eye to eye. In DL most characters are free thinkers and while they might work for the betterment of the gods (or themselves) they do not always blindly follow the gods. In FR you can almost never turn a corner without running into one of Mystra's chosens or some other representative of the gods. But of course and why not they have something like over a hundred deities (I think) so the gods must take more of a close interaction on a day to day basis. THe only time the gods in Krynn take a direct hand in things is when the balance is being upset, usually by one of the evil gods trying to manifest (appear) directly on krynn (mostly the Dark queen).
#39

zombiegleemax

Apr 16, 2007 18:16:15
I feel the same frustration like everyone and thank you to AlioTheFool for enlighting me to the very real possibility that MW is probably just to busy to release Amber & Blood quickly. Also WOTC is a big company with lots of projects on the go. Being frustrated just shows me how good MW's books are, I wouldn't want poor quality stores just so I can have something to read every 3 monthes.
#40

zombiegleemax

Apr 16, 2007 20:41:52
I think that is it sunny that the Dragonlance staff and many fans get upset when criticism is offered to the delay in products.
#41

aliothefool

Apr 18, 2007 6:49:11
I think that is it sunny that the Dragonlance staff and many fans get upset when criticism is offered to the delay in products.

I don't have an issue with being upset that a product is delayed. I get frustrated with delays myself. This book is just the latest example.

My only issue is pointing the finger in the correct direction. If MW is at fault, then fine I can't argue against that. However, I don't believe that to be the case, so I think it's just unfair to hold it against her.

Not to mention, it's got to be hard work for her keeping her company running. Whenever they fall behind on a deadline for a book, it has to affect the bottom line. Considering they are the ones keeping the entire setting alive in the D20 age, I'm willing to give them a bit more leeway.
#42

zombiegleemax

Apr 18, 2007 7:45:40
Not everyone is in agreement on this, especially since it is a business. They are not doing it from the goodness of their hearts but for the pay check (though they are doign what they love), they arent doing it for free. Without product no money.