* * * Wizards Community Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : Elvish fighting men or wizards Started at 04-07-04 12:42 PM by GreyLord Visit at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=216061 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : GreyLord Date : 04-07-04 12:42 PM Thread Title : Elvish fighting men or wizards This refers to OD&D. It referes to the orginal OD&D and not the boxed sets of the 80s. In OD&D it states that elves advance as fighting men and magic-user. They use a six sided die as hitpoints. Now, I understood this that they advance in the two classes at the same time. Later, I think I was right, if one looks at multi-classes. HOWEVER, when I did it, the elf didn't actually gain a level in either until they hit 4500 experience. There are those that did it more like the multiclassing of AD&D. There were also those that either had the elf play fighting man, or play magic-user and switch between them when one began the session, the elf could play either fighting man, or magic-user as they chose for the session or adventure. I'm just curious as to others interpretations, how they did it, and for the even earlier editions, how they decided their own interpretations of the elf class. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : diaglo Date : 04-07-04 12:52 PM Thread Title : Re: Elvish fighting men or wizards Originally posted by GreyLord There were also those that either had the elf play fighting man, or play magic-user and switch between them when one began the session, the elf could play either fighting man, or magic-user as they chose for the session or adventure. I'm just curious as to others interpretations, how they did it, and for the even earlier editions, how they decided their own interpretations of the elf class. the original 3 booklets required them to choose a class. so they could be either fighting man OR magic-user for that session. and they gained xps for the class they played. so in truth they could be completely one-sided lvl wise.... say lvl 1 fighting man ....lvl 6 magic-user. the key to playing OD&D was making each session an adventure....so at the end you gave the xps. if not...you ran into problems with deciding when to lvl the elf. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : Maerik the Mystic Date : 04-08-04 01:17 AM Thread Title : Re: Re: Elvish fighting men or wizards Originally posted by diaglo the original 3 booklets required them to choose a class. so they could be either fighting man OR magic-user for that session. and they gained xps for the class they played. so in truth they could be completely one-sided lvl wise.... say lvl 1 fighting man ....lvl 6 magic-user. the key to playing OD&D was making each session an adventure....so at the end you gave the xps. if not...you ran into problems with deciding when to lvl the elf. What diaglo posted seems correct, that's the way I interpreted it. :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : diaglo Date : 04-08-04 07:03 AM Thread Title : Re: Re: Re: Elvish fighting men or wizards Originally posted by Maerik the Mystic What diaglo posted seems correct, that's the way I interpreted it. :) i don't know if is correct, but that is the way we played it for years.;) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : rogueattorney Date : 04-08-04 11:28 AM Thread Title : Re: Elvish fighting men or wizards Originally posted by GreyLord HOWEVER, when I did it, the elf didn't actually gain a level in either until they hit 4500 experience. That's about right...and it's consistant with the later rules. When the OD&D elf was made into a class in the Moldvay rules, he needed 4,000 XP to advance to second level. In 1e, an elvish f/m-u would need to accumulate 4,000 total XP before advancing to 2nd level as a fighter and 5,000 XP before advancing to 2nd as a m-u. Slow advancement is the price to pay for being able to cast spells while wearing armor and using all weapons. R.A. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : ScottyG Date : 04-08-04 08:55 PM Diaglo is correct. This is from Vol. I, Men & Magic, from the OD&D set. "Elves: Elves can begin as either fighting-men or magic-users and freely switch class whenever they choose, from adventure to adventure, but not during the course of a single game." Scott -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Author : GreyLord Date : 04-08-04 10:47 PM So if I understand most of you correctly, you levelled them up when they hit the XP point of which ever class they were playing? Hence if they were playing a fighting man for that session and hit the XP for 2 level, you gave them 2nd level for fighting man, but if they chose a Magic User for the next session/adventure they then would be level 1. Hmm, not how I levelled them up, but it makes sense. Could make for some really disportionate levels, but then it would be as Diaglo put, they could be a pure class of some sort the entire time, such as a pure fighting man. I have to admit, all these years of doing it as I described above, but what you say makes sense. Or am I misunderstanding when you would level them up? Any other people do it differently? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Author : Maerik the Mystic Date : 04-08-04 10:55 PM GreyLord So if I understand most of you correctly, you levelled them up when they hit the XP point of which ever class they were playing? That's the way I understood it, but then again I like cutting myself with a knive to appease the GOD's. :twitch: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Downloaded from Wizards Community (http://forums.gleemax.com) at 05-10-08 08:21 AM.