Does the DM need the RL PHB to run RL v3.5?

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#1

zombiegleemax

Nov 03, 2003 9:58:38
Hello gamers,

From what I have read on these boards the [u]Player's Handbook is the v3.5 setting for RL v3.5[/u]... so is it neccessary for the DM to purchase the RL PHB? And if it contains so much information is it actually "wise" to let the players read it?

~The Dark 1~
#2

zombiegleemax

Nov 03, 2003 10:21:04
You don't need it, that's for sure. But it might be helpful. It is R3E updated to 3.5 plus magic ratings and the year should be updated from 755BC.

The developers said that some of the classes "had been tweaked to better suit Ravenloft". Whatever that means
#3

zombiegleemax

Nov 03, 2003 10:51:37
Originally posted by Irve
You don't need it, that's for sure. But it might be helpful. It is R3E updated to 3.5 plus magic ratings and the year should be updated from 755BC.

The developers said that some of the classes "had been tweaked to better suit Ravenloft". Whatever that means

It means they saw WoTC come out with the same line give or take and they figured they would cash in on it.

~The Dark 1~
#4

zombiegleemax

Nov 03, 2003 10:58:46
Originally posted by Pangaea
It means they saw WoTC come out with the same line give or take and they figured they would cash in on it.

~The Dark 1~

No, their licence requires them to update the core books of the setting. Denizens of Dread is an upcoming update to the Denizens of Darkness BTW. It was only luck that made DMG 3.5 compatible from the beginning. I don't find us getting 3.5E in the first place to be a particurlarly lucky thing, however.
#5

zombiegleemax

Nov 03, 2003 11:02:43
Originally posted by Irve
No, their licence requires them to update the core books of the setting. Denizens of Dread is an upcoming update to the Denizens of Darkness BTW. It was only luck that made DMG 3.5 compatible from the beginning. I don't find us getting 3.5E in the first place to be a particurlarly lucky thing, however.

You know I have heard more than a few people say they do not want to buy 3.5. I have the 3.5 DnD core rulebooks and I still have not used them yet.

~The Dark 1~
#6

zombiegleemax

Nov 03, 2003 17:46:22
the changes are not drastic enough that one has to buy 3.5 to use future supplements, so I plan to stay with 3.0 and be 90 dollars richer
#7

b4real

Nov 03, 2003 18:36:17
Originally posted by frandelgearslip
the changes are not drastic enough that one has to buy 3.5 to use future supplements, so I plan to stay with 3.0 and be 90 dollars richer

Smart , very smart.
#8

zombiegleemax

Nov 03, 2003 19:05:27
I just got the changes from the updated SRD..
#9

b4real

Nov 03, 2003 19:25:50
Originally posted by Antyrias the Redeemed
I just got the changes from the updated SRD..

Word...an RL SRD? Linkage please.
#10

zombiegleemax

Nov 03, 2003 19:42:34
No no, I mean the 3.5 changes. THere is not a RL SRD, to my knowledge. Still need to get the new books, but availability is something of a difficulty here away from the larger areas of the state, aye?
#11

The_Jester

Nov 04, 2003 0:55:53
I wasn't going to pick up 3.5, but I found all three books for $50 at a comic con, so I figured 'what the hey'.
Plus as a Canadian with the scewered grossly inflated price I really saved.
And my 3.0 books were getting a little worn-n-torn.

The RL:DMG wasn't luckily 3.5 compatible, it was schedualed and they delayed it to make it comply with 3.5 so they could keep their licence.

And despite the RL: PHB and Denzines of Darkness probably being 80-90% identical to the Campain Setting and the other DoD I'll pick them up because I wanna support Ravenloft and S&S.
Starving student, but hey gaming keeps me sane and $60 is not alot to pay to avoid clock-towering.
#12

platinumwarlock

Nov 04, 2003 7:49:17
Originally posted by The_Jester
I wasn't going to pick up 3.5, but I found all three books for $50 at a comic con, so I figured 'what the hey'.
Plus as a Canadian with the scewered grossly inflated price I really saved.
And my 3.0 books were getting a little worn-n-torn.

The RL:DMG wasn't luckily 3.5 compatible, it was schedualed and they delayed it to make it comply with 3.5 so they could keep their licence.

And despite the RL: PHB and Denzines of Darkness probably being 80-90% identical to the Campain Setting and the other DoD I'll pick them up because I wanna support Ravenloft and S&S.
Starving student, but hey gaming keeps me sane and $60 is not alot to pay to avoid clock-towering.

I'm in pretty much the same boat.

I ran into some money, thanks to my Grandparents, and that financed my update to 3.5. Couldn't have been at a better time--my DMG was shot to the Abyss and back. My PH wasn't much better.

In terms of Ravenloft, I'll probably check out the RLPH before buying it. If there's enough changes or enough new material, I'll invest. Same deal with Denizens of Darkness, but there would have to be some Massive additions for me to buy that.
#13

william_cairnstone_dup

Nov 05, 2003 6:59:12
Originally posted by frandelgearslip
the changes are not drastic enough that one has to buy 3.5 to use future supplements, so I plan to stay with 3.0 and be 90 dollars richer

Plus, WotC have made available some supplements to convert from 3E to 3E.5. Of course this relates to the general D20 game, but that should be enough for RL too, no ? Otherwise, I'm afraid it's just a way to get some more money out, but unless people don't have the 3E books, I don't see many of them buying the books....

W.C.
#14

zombiegleemax

Nov 05, 2003 10:29:30
well, if you've looked through the books, you will realize that the 3.5 PHB is better. It's got tables and other interesting things that make life easier. The 3.5 DMG is nothing special in my mind, and the monstrous manual was reorganized so that things are integrated into it mroe (the templates are in with everything else not in the appendix).

Honestly I see them as very good books if you are starting out. If you already own 3e then just wait till you can find them cheap.

As for the RL: PHB and DMG. If you play world of darkness you know that every setting has a core book with everything you could ever need to play the game, and then a PHB and STG (Storytellers guide) are released to make life a little cooler. That's how I see the RL PHB and DMG. They aren't really necassary but they are good resources.

greydawn
#15

b4real

Nov 23, 2003 22:34:10
Originally posted by Greydawn
well, if you've looked through the books, you will realize that the 3.5 PHB is better. It's got tables and other interesting things that make life easier. The 3.5 DMG is nothing special in my mind, and the monstrous manual was reorganized so that things are integrated into it mroe (the templates are in with everything else not in the appendix).

Honestly I see them as very good books if you are starting out. If you already own 3e then just wait till you can find them cheap.

As for the RL: PHB and DMG. If you play world of darkness you know that every setting has a core book with everything you could ever need to play the game, and then a PHB and STG (Storytellers guide) are released to make life a little cooler. That's how I see the RL PHB and DMG. They aren't really necassary but they are good resources.

greydawn

The book(RL PHB) is a disaster. Read the thread titled: RL PHB and my two cents.

~B4Real