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#1 zombiegleemax Mar 29, 2004 15:18:04	After reading through the latest Dungeon mag, I noticed, yet again, that one of the old campaign worlds has a cosmology that seperates it from the great wheel. The Darksun cosmology is presented at having no outer plane. Deities and Demigods seperates each mythos into its own cosmology. What's to become of Planescape?
#2 zombiegleemax Mar 29, 2004 15:32:39	According to Defilers and Preservers(1996), Athas did have outer planes, although it was pretty hard to reach them, since this meant passing through the Grey. In any case I think that Planescape should have its own cosmology, incorporating alternate versions of the cosmologies from the various mythoi: this cosmology should follow the original 1st and 2nd edition rules, using the Great Ring; but with the Astral Plane connecting only the Prime Material and Outer Planes, and a Deep Ethereal Plane connecting the Prime Material and Inner Planes
#3 Shemeska_the_Marauder Mar 29, 2004 16:51:42	Athas itself did exist within the greater multiverse of Planescape. It was another prime world that was, for whatever unknown reasons, effectively cut off from the Outer Planes. It still had connections to the Inner Planes (and there's numerous references to Athasian NPCs in Planescape in the Inner Planes). Just Astral connections to Athas seemed largely blocked to those wishing to leave Athas. Getting in was the easy part, leaving was more difficult and there were numerous fiends that made their way there and got stuck as I recall.
#4 zombiegleemax Mar 29, 2004 18:53:15	Shemeska, You are quite correct. The greatest factol of the Mercykillers, Mallin, was a native of Athas.
#5 Shemeska_the_Marauder Mar 29, 2004 21:58:36	Originally posted by Biomage Shemeska, You are quite correct. The greatest factol of the Mercykillers, Mallin, was a native of Athas. And he was killed with my favorite jailbait tiefling on permenant sleep deprivation, Alisohn Nilesia. Factols who go bonkers are always fun. ;) "Justice does not sleep, why should I? Why should YOU?" - Nilesia to one of her underlings after he questioned her on her lack of sleep, concerned with her health. He died shortly thereafter.
#6 zombiegleemax Mar 30, 2004 13:11:00	Originally posted by Shemeska the Marauder And he was killed with my favorite jailbait tiefling on permenant sleep deprivation, Alisohn Nilesia. Factols who go bonkers are always fun. For course, the mysterious circumstances surrounding Mallin's death can't be placed on any individual. Nilesia's guilt can only be speculated.
#7 Shemeska_the_Marauder Mar 30, 2004 13:34:40	Alright, I'll grant you that. It was never outright said that she killed him, or even had him killed. Just that she felt he was in her way and shortly thereafter she was Factol and he was out of the picture. There's a good bit of speculative work there you could do on just what happened to Mallin, or if he might even be still alive.
#8 raymond_luxury_yacht Mar 30, 2004 14:19:53	Athas is connected to the Ethereal Plane though, one of Ravenloft's Lords comes from Athas.
#9 zombiegleemax Mar 30, 2004 17:33:48	The gender-bending Thakok-An? Yup, she's from Ravenloft. Though she was a he in Forbidden Lord.
#10 zombiegleemax Mar 30, 2004 23:43:57	Getting in was the easy part, leaving was more difficult Seems I was already beat to the punch. I was about to mention that this reminded me strongly of Ravenloft.
#11 raymond_luxury_yacht Mar 31, 2004 10:56:39	Originally posted by Drinnik Shoehorn The gender-bending Thakok-An? Yup, she's from Ravenloft. Though she was a he in Forbidden Lord. Pity they didn't mention her role in the destruction of Kalidnay in the May issue of Polyhedron.